Well, no new announcements from GT lately. Just wonder, are there any new cool stuff you're working on?

Maybe GForum2? GComm2? Some new products?

I'm visiting your blog almost every day but there are no info about stuff you're working on and as there are almost no info from Alex in this forums, I'm just curious.

Really would like to know. It eats me alive

UnReal Network

Hi deadroot,
I quite agree.
I like GTs blog entries about poker, gadgets and so on,
but
a roadmap for glinks, gcomm or especially for gforum would be nice too.

Matthias

Matthias
gpaed.de

Looks like they are in a holding pattern for a year or so?

Maybe being acquired by Google?

Enough with the cheesy blood donor/gadget blog posts!
Belize Tourism & Country Guide
Belize News

It seems that GT doesn't like us anymore

UnReal Network

Hi GT,
I know, it is not nice to be asked again and again, when gforum or other products finally finished or updated.
But as you can see in many threads, YOUR clients are interested.
We are all clients, you should not simply ignore us!

Sometimes it's better to answer, than just say nothing. Even if an answer costs much time.

When I were a interested new user, visiting this forum. And I would read threads like this one.
I would just close my browser window...

Just a opinion from one of your clients

Matthias

Matthias
gpaed.de

Some theories:

1. The GT folks are ill and cannot work - gall bladder surgery? Incarcerated?

2. They are being acquired so have to go into silent mode for a time.

3. They've completely re-designed and re-coded all their products and will shock us with an announcement tomorrow.

4. They've tied all their products into a killer CMS.
Belize Tourism & Country Guide
Belize News

This is what really happened!

As you may know their office is right across from the Alaska Cruise Ships. Jack looked out the window then looked back at his computer screen. Viewed the recent Posts on the forum and went for a holiday!

That’s my story and I'm sticking to it!


Sandra Roussel
Chonsa Group Design - Fresh Start Housing

Can someone check, whether the sun tower is still there

Seriously, the only one who cares about the clients in this forum is Andy.
I know Andy is not from GT, but if he was not there in the last months, it would have been very very quiet in this forum.

Of course, Andy is interested in selling his plugins, but should not GT interested in selling their products, too.
Perhaps GT lost their contact to the small people...

Matthias

Matthias
gpaed.de

brewt is here helping - wrote to him the other day and had an immediate reply.


Sandra Roussel
Chonsa Group Design - Fresh Start Housing

Yes, me too. Just yesterday.

But problem isn't in problem solving rather in no new info or announcement from GT so we are tapping in the dark

Don't know what is going on, what is working on...nothing...just blank page

UnReal Network

Seems, that they now even canceled new blog entries

Matthias

Matthias
gpaed.de

I hope there is not a parallel here to an experience I had many years ago.

I ran a BBS on what was considered the top platform of the day TBBS and made by eSoft. This sucker was coded in assembly language and lean and mean like most
of the GT products.

Somewhere along the way the company lost its direction and there was like a year and a half lull in updates or forum activity.

Suddenly a new upgraded version came out and most sysops desperately upgraded. I recall the upgrade being expensive but hey, we were thirsty.

Turned out the upgrade was a minor fix and a few cosmetic changes.

Then they lowered the boom.

The head of the company had left and what remained was sold off and TBBS died - but they refused to release it as open source.


Belize Tourism & Country Guide
Belize News

Hi,
today I had a look on early announcements in this forum.
From Nov 15, 2004 to Oct 12, 2006 the GT Dev Team did exactly what we are all waiting for the last year.
In this period they wrote many posts on what they are working on...

Is there still a GT Dev Team out there

Would be great, if you could give us a sign of life

Thanks

Matthias
gpaed.de

Hi Everyone,

First off, sorry about the lack of updates being made. No, we are not going anywhere or being sold or stopping development. As lame as it sounds, we have just been too busy. Last year saw an 80% growth here and we've been struggling to keep up with the demand. We now have over 20 people working here in Vancouver, and our hosting side of things has exploded to over 300 servers.

The bulk of our time has been doing a lot of custom development on sites big and small using products like Gossamer Forum and Gossamer Links as a base. We've been creating a lot of cool plugins and enhancements as part of this development. Sadly, we haven't been getting the new stuff released to everyone and definitely haven't got core updates out in time. Even Ian who has been managing our blog has gotten pulled away and we haven't been able to put out blog posts.

We're going to be changing that in the next month or two and put a lot of resources into polishing up the plugins we've done, and getting the code released that has been sitting in beta for a while. So, while I recognize that I've said this before many a time, please do stay tuned and you should see some exciting news.

Thanks again for the patience, and if you do have questions, please feel free to reply, or drop me an email or send me a private message and I'll do my best to get back to you quickly.

Cheers,

Alex
--
Gossamer Threads Inc.

Hi Alex,
it does'nt matter how much work there is.
There should be at least one person from GT who's watching the posts in this forum.
This should not cost so much time.
15 minutes each day should do it...


So what do you think about a Roadmap for each of your products?

Thanks

Matthias
gpaed.de

Hi Matthias,

Yes, Adrian (brewt) does try to reply to a lot of the technical posts and provide some answers/assistance where possible. As for a roadmap, previously we've been pulled off into doing a lot of custom work, so a roadmap without any meaningful dates would not be that useful (and indeed would have changed considerably as we build and develop things for other people). We are now going to start integrating a lot of the custom work we've been doing back into the products, so you'll see some good stuff coming out soon.

Cheers,

Alex
--
Gossamer Threads Inc.

Hi Alex,
a roadmap with dates would be great!
For me as a very curios user, a roadmap without dates is better than no roadmap

But I'm trying to exercise patience...

Matthias
gpaed.de

Oh, and I appreciate that!

Cheers,

Alex
--
Gossamer Threads Inc.

At least you've had me holding down the fort

Cheers

Andy (mod)
andy@ultranerds.co.uk

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Maybe some sneak preview of those cool new plugins? Just to have idea on what you were working on.

Regards.

UnReal Network

Hi Alex,
two months are over and I can't see any further changes on the gforum install on GT?
There is still no paging in the member directory and there is no mark all read button and so on...
Not much to change, but if you want to release gforum in the next days these changes should be tested.

And I’d be very pleased if you tell us, what features the new gforum will bring.

Thanks

Matthias
gpaed.de

Is wondering if the growth is overtaking the actual functionality of the company.

$$$$$

It's all about the dollars. They are obviously earning enough money via other ventures and no longer care about the people that bought DBMan, Links2 etc and made their company what it is today.

I emailed them today and got this response:

Hi Matthias.,

Ian is working on a blog post to showcase some of the things that will be out soon and in the new versions. We will be releasing a new FileMan and Gossamer Forum shortly. FileMan is a complete rewrite, all "ajaxified" (man I hate that word). Gossamer Forum is a mjor overhaul and will include new features like social media integration, improved rss support, positive feedback system, post tagging, and a host of other things. We'll walk through some of this in detail in the next week or two. We're really pushing to get this out soon.

Cheers,

Alex
--
Gossamer Threads Inc.

Alex,
Will the make over be free to existing owners?

We're almost to the third week any word?

Hi,

I know for a fact GForum 3 is very nearly ready - they are just fixing up some bugs/issues. They don't wanna release it when its screwed :) (I've seen a pre-beta of it already, but its not quite ready for use on a live site (old, or new).

Just keep your eyes open to the Announcements forum - should hopefully here something in the next couple of weeks :)

Cheers

Andy (mod)
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My comment (see below) to the forum sneak peak in the gossamer blog is awaiting moderation since 10 days.


Matthias
gpaed.de

The forum design breaks in IE8

Still my big things I'm wanting to see is a luna based template for community; and the same template as this current forum for forums. Also are the upgrades for GForum free?

Hi guys,

Ian the GT blogger here - Just thought I'd answer some of your questions:

GForum v.2.0.0 Release Date:
The targeted BETA release date for GForum v2.0.0 as of right now is August 31, 2008. You definitely will not have wait another year.

Fileman v3.0 Release Date:
We are currently testing the Beta version of FileMan v3.0 for bugs - release date will most likely be the same time as GForum v.2.0.0 (if not earlier).

Luna-based template for Gossamer Community:
This is definitely on our list of product updates - again, expect it roughly around the same time as the GForum v2.0.0 release.

Pricing & Upgrading:
There hasn't been a final decision made on pricing yet - but rest assured the final price will very attractive.



For those of you who haven't seen our sneak peak, have a look:
http://www.gossamer-threads.com/...ads-development-lab/

Everything still on schedule?

We are pushing real hard to get our projects out on schedule - sleepless nights are quite common right around this time.

We've got 5 developers working on Gossamer Forum 2 (the most we've had on any project) and it's still proving to be big undertaking, due to the amount of redesign (both system and style) and legacy code that needs to be rejiggered to work. To be frank, given the amount of changes and quality we're striving for, our target of the 31st is looking a bit hazy as of now.

What I can say is that FileMan v3 BETA is on schedule and will be released by the end of the week.

The user-side functionality of Gossamer Forum 2 will also be pushed out in some way on Friday, so you can see and play with all the neat new features such as tagging, favourites, reporting posts (report abuse, spammers, etc) and revamped profile pages with social media integration.

Er, see what you mean about the forum breaking in IE 8 (image attached for GT, if their interested :P)

Cheers

Andy (mod)
andy@ultranerds.co.uk

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In the interim, you can add the META element (<meta http-equiv="X-UA-Compatible" content="IE=7" />) to force IE8 to emulate IE7. Will not work if you place it incorrectly. The META element should be the first child of your HEAD element.

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Magelln

Hi,

Ah cool - didn't know that =)

I think what I'm just gonna do on my stuff, is not bother working with IE 8, at least not until its been officially released (I was talking to someone else about it on another forum, and he was saying you'll just be there forever-and-a-day trying to make it work with fixes/releases etc, so its best just to wait for a proper release =)))

Cheers

Andy (mod)
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Hi,

Sadly we didn't get it to a state today where we could push it out to the site. It's our top priority and we'll be working all next week to get the site updated and a download to follow shortly.

Thanks for your patience!

Alex
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Gossamer Threads Inc.

It's better to take your time and get it right then to rush and have to work out a lot of bugs


Sandra Roussel
Chonsa Group Design - Fresh Start Housing

Hi,

I'm not sure what you mean?

Cheers,

Alex
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Gossamer Threads Inc.

sorry, there is no bug !

I just missed the fact that it is possible to switch from page "1 of 2" to page "2 of 2".
Looks like I had tired eyes..... ;-)


Thanks,

Erich

Any updates?

As Alex has stated, we're still working on it to make sure that our release is as polished and tidy as you'd expect it to be. It is a top priority and we are working on it very diligently!

Stay tuned to our blog for detailed announcements - I promise I'll roll them out as soon as I have news

Well here's my monthly check in for any new updates.

Any new word on a Links SQL or Community or Forums update that is ready?

Hm, my comment on this comment
http://www.gossamer-threads.com/blog/sneak-peak-gossamer-threads-development-lab/#comment-17807
in gt blog is awaiting moderation, since December 12th 2008,
so I think I have to post it here...


Hi Ian,
there were a lot of days to release gforum 2.0 since October the 20th ?!?
Are there any problems with the admin side of gforum?
The “Duke Nukem Forever” point is getting closer

Matthias
gpaed.de

Sadly there seems to be a total neglect of paying customers, at least on this forum. With the current economic climate you'd expect the opposite. I guess GT can afford to lose customers....

Hey Alex,

Thanks for the update, am eager to see all the new toys. It is still my opinion you need to take your time and do it right, instead of rushing to push stuff out. The complainers will complain worse if you put out a buggy update.


Sandra Roussel
Chonsa Group Design - Fresh Start Housing

Hi Sandra,
what update do you mean. Did I miss something?
Matthias

Matthias
gpaed.de

I was speaking of the forum update. With each update there are a ton of bugs. I would hate to see them rush and it turn into a nightmare to update our versions.


Sandra Roussel
Chonsa Group Design - Fresh Start Housing

Sandra, I totally agree, but when GT was talking about a target of 31. August 2008 and nothing happens till now. It's time to ask what has happen?


Matthias
gpaed.de

I am personally eager to see all the new social options, and can only assume this update is gonna be awesome. August was some time ago, and I can understand your frustration. Sometimes it takes a few re-dates to come up with a masterpiece.

For me. I am willing to wait and hope the plug-in bugs and general bugs will be none to little when this is completed.


Sandra Roussel
Chonsa Group Design - Fresh Start Housing

The "complainers" as you put it are not asking for a rushed and buggy update but for regular information on progress. People like to know what is going on. It's good PR to let them know, otherwise they'll eventually go elsewhere.

I totally agree.
I want to install GT Forum 2.0 on my site and I'm waiting for it now quite a long time.
My users are asking me, when there is a forum on my site?
I can not answer these questions for nearly two years...

Matthias
gpaed.de

Very much agreed! Seems were all kept in the dark currently about the status of these projects. I was going to have some customer work done last year for GT Forums and Community but was told it was part of the upcoming release that fall. We're almost to the following spring and still no results.

Seems like everybody at GT is still working on the new forum and nobody has time to check the forums

Matthias
gpaed.de

Thought would want to see this email. Additionally I'm going to assume since it wasn't addressed that my custom work order request was denied by the company.

Hi Jason,

We're spread pretty thin right now on manpower with all the projects we
have on the go, so unfortunately, there won't be any new versions coming
out until the middle of the summer, about July or August.

At that point, we hope to have GForum 2 and GCommunity 2 done and
released. GLinks is a much bigger program and will likely have to wait
till the end of the year for a major update.

Jack.

> I am working on my site and wanted to know if the new version of the
> Gossamer Forum will be out soon as I would like to update immedately.
> Additionally, I am wanting to know what the price would be on a luna
> template for Gossamer Community would be and how quickly I could this.
> Also, will their be any new upgrades for Gossamer Links anytime soon?

Hi Jason, thank you for the information...

Would have been fair, to get this information from GT staff and not from another user!!!

All the time I thought GT is working hard on the gforum update.
How can GT start new projects, when the already started projects (gforum 2.0) are not finished yet?
Has GTs priority changed from building software to building websites?
It's all about money, I know, but for me it's seems like GT is loosing it's roots...

Thanks

Matthias
gpaed.de

Yup!

It is a pity to have to wait that long and it is a pity that there is a lack of communication.
I still appreciate the work and products of GT and I am looking forward to seeing the new releases.
It´s nice that there are still many active users supporting each other and the products in this forum.
Probably at the moment its them that keep this product line alive.
On the other hand the "big" projects will hopefully influence future releases .
Just my 2 cents.

Regards

Niko

I think we need to be patient.

This is a major release in which its changing templates and alot of other things, and as a company GT needs to make sure its ready to support upgrades from muliple different configurations.

I don't think GT or any other company in their right mind would spend months or years of time coding, just so the new release could be upgraded easily from different configuration. In addition, doubt most GLinks users would mind spending 10 minutes more while doing manual upgrade (if new version can be easily upgraded from old one) to have new features within GLinks.

I have no clues on what exact features GLinks is working on right now, however based on their previous upgrades, I would not be surprised to see better RSS feed ability and/or New Listings page update, Top Listings page update.. etc and few other features in the next release.

But in anycase, GT have never let their users down. In my opinion, currently GLinks is so far ahead of its competitors, its hard to figure out who is number 2.

Vishal
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I can see a reasonable ammount of patients being used but when timeframes are not being met and then GT stops being proactive with communication I can see where many are upset.

Just want to remember GT that we are still waiting for some updates.
July and August 2009 are long ago. And you gave us the same information as above in August 2008, too
I'm really don't mind hours and days and month, but years???

Matthias
gpaed.de

Yup (again!)

"You definitely will not have wait another year"

More than a year ;)

Hi Matthias,

I am also eagerly waiting for some updates for GLinks (or atleast to hear about them) & understand that its been a long time since we heard anything from GT about it. However I just don't think it is right to write-off Alex, Jack, Adrian & GT team just yet - I am pretty sure, they are much more diligent then many other script developer.

Its been ages since GLinks (aka Links SQL) has been an integral part of our sites, and is also GT's flagship product. I doubt GT team would let down its product or client-base that easily.

Again, I share your frustration, and am hoping GT is also reading this thread too.

Vishal
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>>
I doubt GT team would let down its product or client-base that easily.
<<

They already have.

The problem is: you are "hoping"...
You should be SURE that they are reading AND responding to forum posts.

Thanks Payooo,
could not find this part yesterday.
I think it says all about GT at the moment...

@ Vishal
>> I doubt GT team would let down its product or client-base that easily.

I think they already have. I have an german translation of glinks and they did not translate glinks 3.3 into german.
Normaly the new release of glinks was translated into german in 2 or 3 weeks. 3.3 was released in May 09 and I still have to use glinks 3.2 :-(

Matthias
gpaed.de

My dear friend, it was just a polite way of writing.

Here is what I should have written.

I am SURE that they are reading the forum. I will not back-down from something that I am this sure of.

In past I have had phone conversations with both Alex & Jack, and they are just not the type to abandon their user-base.


**** edit ****
P.S..... Sorry, don't take it personal if the post sounds too strong. (I have 5 licenses and would love to see & make updates on different sites with new options & features)
I am also frustrated same as you, however comeon GT team is also made up of humans and do have their list of priorities. So I am *sure* they are reading the posts and will also understand that their user-base has been waiting for long time and is looking forward for some update.

Vishal
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No problem

I also have a few licenses and been faithful to GT products for almost 10 years.
GT team has been extremely helpful in the past and they are great.

But, I make a living from a few web sites which are based on GLinks and Community.
When I do not see updates as promised, I start to worry.
What disturbs me more, is that there is no reply to this thread from official GT team for over a year.

I know they are humans, but if they can not post one or two posts every month just to keep us updated...

If Andy wasn't here and helping people, I think this forum would be dead.

I agree.

It takes a few minutes for a member of staff to post a message. With all the concern in this thread you'd think they would respond to provide assurance, even if it's just "We will provide more info in due course" - but......they haven't.

They have neglected the people that made GT what it is today. I can't believe people still come here hoping for updates. My advice would be to move on. There are better products out there with active communities made by companies treating their clients properly.

Hi Wychwood, you are right, posting a comment should not take much time.
But I think GT Stuff wrote all excuses they can think off in the last years. There are no serious excuses left anymore...

For me, it's not that easy to leave GT
1. I spent quite a lot of money for glinks...
2. I like my page with glinks
3. I don't know how to integrate my database into joomla...

Matthias
gpaed.de

Hello everyone,

Our deepest apologies for the silence on the boards.

Things have been going well here at GT, with the exception of resource
allocation. Because we've been so busy, we readily admit that our
products have taken a bit of a back seat. This economic downturn has
affected everyone, including many of our customers, and we've been doing
everything we can to assist them, which unfortunately takes resources
away from updating our core products.

We make ourselves available though via our support form, and we even
post our toll-free number on the website, so if you wish to stay in
touch, please do feel free.

Once we get a handle on things, we do plan to get back to what got us to
where we are today, which is the core suite of products.

In the meantime, we're now a lot more settled into our new offices, check out
the images, etc. here:

http://www.gossamer-threads.com/blog/introducing-gt-office-20-no-its-not-a-publishing-suite/

Thanks for hanging in there with us,

Gossamer Threads.

Phew, I guess we can relax now we can look at a 6 month old blog entry

Matthias
gpaed.de

I'm just confused as to why a company would effectively be putting itself out of business by assisting other companies? I mean as a business plan if your not running your business it dies. Would it not better help companies to have a better product to run their sites?

Jack's post didn't make sense, unless I've misunderstood it. How does an economic downturn mean they are busier?

Word spreads fast and it spreads even faster over the Internet. Word will eventually get around that Gossamer-Threads neglect customers and don't meet deadlines etc. If they're that busy they must be earning money so can afford to pay staff to frequent the forum and work on their products.

Hi Everyone,

I know there has not been nearly as much communication here as there should have been, and for that I'm truly sorry.

Unfortunately, we haven't posted an update as we haven't had good news to post. Despite our best intentions (and we know where that road leads to), we have not been able to dedicate the people needed to product development. Each time we try, we get pulled away by big projects and we end up spending more and more time on custom development which has been allowing us to continue to grow. As you know, what makes our products so good is their flexibility. We've been using them as a base for sites small and large, a few of which we try and feature on our blog and our way of communicating what we've been doing..

We have every intention of returning to our core products and putting out a fresh set of updates, I just don't want to promise anything. I know that's not that helpful an answer, and partly why we have been so quiet, but I hope it's better then silence.

We do continue to support our products, and actively develop and work on them for customers. If you do have a project that has been on hold, we are more then happy to look at the job and see if it's something we can do for you.

If you have any questions, please feel free to contact me either through private message, email (alex at gossamer-threads dot com) or by phone (604) 687-5804.

Cheers,

Alex
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Gossamer Threads Inc.

Hey Alex,

Sounds like its time to add a staff member to work on GT stuff and NEVER move that person no matter the circumstance. When you hire that person stash them in the basement of that new office and other then payday forget they exists.


Sandra Roussel
Chonsa Group Design - Fresh Start Housing

Trust me, it's something we've talked about many a time - that's how we got the frontend of the forum done. But then some cool new project comes along that we don't have staff for and he gets pulled kicking and screaming onto it.

All joking aside though, it is something we are really looking at, as we have done so many different things over the past few years, that to put them together as an updated product just makes sense. It's just hard to get the developer time when so many immediate paid projects are pressing and requiring time.

Cheers,

Alex
--
Gossamer Threads Inc.

That says it all - the updates you’re providing are all FREE. I have been waiting silently because I still like the free updates and understand the alternative is to charge for updates.

Maybe its time to take a poll and see how many people would be interested in paying for updates?

Poor Andy got grief for charging an annual fee to cover support for his plugin. I cried when I heard the news now simply beg and plead for help, sent beer once to bribe him...

Everyone likes free but then complains when things are not done fast enough, I am silently waiting for my FREE update. YET would consider a reasonable update fee to get things moving.


Sandra Roussel
Chonsa Group Design - Fresh Start Housing

Not 100% sure on this but a few years ago when I purchased GForum I was told that only updates for the current version were free and that you would have to pay an additional fee if you wanted to upgrade to the next release.


If you want to bribe Mr Newby he has a link to his Wish List in his sig.

I actually emailed in requests for customer jobs but were told they would be in the next release and that they won't do them then. Sadly I have already begun looking for newer software that is more up to date and offers more support. As far as paid updates I don't mind those as long as they are useless updates. Projects should be prioritized by the company and new projects should not be started until others are completed. It displays to customers that the company is not reliable about meetings deadlines and working with existing customers. Everyone has been hit with the economy but driving away your customer base to other companies doesn't help your companies prospects.

Your are right! We are customers, too!
Why do we have to wait! Better GT should tell new customers. Sorry we have no time for your project...
I think we paid for updates when we owned GT Products. It's not fair, to prefer new customers with new projects...

At the moment I can not see any future for GT Products. In the past, they promised updates in half a year or next year.
But did you realize, that both, Alex and Jack did not tell any timeframe. This are really bad news...

Matthias
gpaed.de

I was about to buy the Message Board, a year ago. Decided to wait for that update. Why? Because it would integrate perfectly with my GLinks and community etc etc.
A year later, I have already gone elsewhere after reading that there are no updates, ETA or anything.
Not just that. Im looking for options on another CMS for both my links sites.

I love links, got it down on how it works and am very comfortable on modifying it.
But I also see its falling behind in many many areas.

Ive used GT since links flat file, beta and free... before the sql version, when Alex was the only one around and the site looked like it was attacked by a spider (black logo red letters I think). Actually before that but dont remember the design.

Its a terrible shame, that I consider myself a loyal customer to the bone and I have to go looking for options because I dont see the product evolving to todays needs.

Waited and waited, the same thing GT is doing to us, I myself will have to do. Business is business, I too will have to go elsewhere looking for better business.

I only own 2 licenses, Im guessing im not a big client, but I can tell you Im a big supporter and recommend your products to every web developer I know and even teach them how to use it.
Not any more. Them as I, need more from our CMS.

Sorry GT, but like you, I too need to move on.

Juan Carlos

It's risky risking one's business model based on softwares which have no openly published roadmap short term (quarterly) and long term (yearly). 7 years back gmail and atmail were at par on features. Look at where atmail is now.

Thanks
HyTC
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But they do have time to do stuff like:
http://www.gossamer-threads.com/blog/the-great-green-roof-of-gossamer/
and write blog post about that.

Says it all really. Obviously BBQ'ing is Gossamer's priority.

....and I do not believe for one minute that staff are so busy that they do not have time to visit the forum. For God's sake, they could logon for 5 minutes at home in the evening and answer a couple of posts.

The bottom line is they don't care about the forum any more or the customers that use it, for whatever reason. Maybe their scripts aren't selling well and they are focusing on hosting and customization work - I don't know.

Hypertherm - atmail looks superb. Their mail client interface looks amazing.

In 2002 gmail and atmail were almost similar in feature sets. Today atmail is more of a groupware (exchange alternative on linux) solution, though we settled for axigen (again a wonderful true exchange alternative). Axigen is from same company which got ravantivirus (AV SW for Linux Mail servers much before ClamAV was stable) but product was killed by M$ which bought everything and integrated into their SW/offerings as something of their own.

Thanks
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I think you're right. I wonder how long this thread will remain in this forum. That's not a good signboard for new customers...

Matthias
gpaed.de

Hi Guys,

Not sure what I can add here except what I said in post #83 and #85. But to try and answer some of your questions/comments:

Payoo, Ian writes the blog posts and those are not taking away from developer time, so one is not really related to the other (although I understand this may have been made in jest). The posts help a lot in attracting people to Gossamer and coming to work here. More developers == more we can get done. =)

Sandra, yes, we have thought about making paid updates to prioritize development higher. It might be the way forward, but I realize that might be just as unappetizing to a lot of people here. However when the alternative is no updates, or really lengthy delays, it's not much of a choice is it. Again, the main problem is our current paid workload greatly outpaces what we do in terms of product sales. We have 25 full time people and actively hiring more to keep up.

LordStryfe, sorry to hear about that. Not sure where we dropped the ball there, but if you are at all still interested, please drop me an email with what you had asked and I'd be happy to help.

Paul, we banned you from this forum a number of years back for your cross site scripting attacks against other members and denial of services attacks. I'm not sure why you keep persisting on coming back. The trolling and abuse and sniping you continue to level on Andy is unjustified and not welcome.

Cheers,

Alex
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Hi Alex,
when I'm looking back, August was a month where many GT updates came out.
What about 2010

Matthias
gpaed.de

No update, no correction since May 12, 2009, when we will have new features?

I've been monitoring this four-year old thread - it started in February 13 2008 and no action yet.

The forum is not easily accessible from the Gossamer Threads landing page.

For sure I believe Jack should come out and officially declare the product line R.I.P.

It's the month of love 2011 folks but all good things come to an end.

I've lost track of how many licenses I have for GT products - should be at least six.

My custom Links installed crashed and burnt a couple years ago and I was awaiting upgrades etc. before trying to resurrect.

Not to be.

It appears - G.T. will wait us all out under we get bored, die or go away
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Just one short post so we don't skip 2012...
Sad to see no updates to GT products