Yes, I understand what you're saying. But the licence agreement and the "Social charter" explicitly say that you can not charge to redistribute the content in any way. The content must always be free. And if I have to pay to download the content off your server then that is in breach of the licence agreement.

- wil

You are entitled to your own interpreation, but if that is the case then I think GT(i think)/Paul/Pugdg etc are in breach of it as they offer exactly the same services as I am

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Yes, sorry. I wasn't trying to pin pointing you. I was just worried, confused or amazed by how people get away with this blatant breash of contract! Ah well, I guess it's not my problem. :-)

- wil

How much are you paying for this per month? What backup methods do they use?

What is their data center like? Have they guaranteed you absolutely Unsaturated Bandwidth??

- wil

1) How much is up to Paul to tell you

2) They are in an old bank basement, with fire supression systems installed. Not sure about backups. I was told if i wanted a backup drive I needed to buy a form of backing up. Tim gave me another HD to back mine upi on though

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Ah. Backup is one of the most important when I'm deciding on these things. I'm paranoid and go for 'Archiver' that backs up the entire machine every 3 hours onto a a removable drive and another machine, so that I could hot-swap them if neccessary (via RAID Level 1 Mirroring). With a lot of our business depending on the SQL server and other applications for internal processes more than external - this has become an absolute must.

- wil

Paul, thanks for the offer!

I am planning to go dedicated myself in late spring, still taking Redhat lessons, hehe...

No problem. Good luck with those lessons. Once you get some practical experience it will start making sense (unless you already understand )

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We can have as many free IP's as we need as long as we can justify their use

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Wait until you see the IP justification form.

ftp://ftp.ripe.net/ripe/docs/ripe-141.txt

Good Luck

Dregs2

ROFL! tier1host.net is one hell of a deal then ;-)

- wil

There's absolutely no info on them on Web Hosting Talk which means they must have just started their service...

>>Wait until you see the IP justification form.<<

Thankfully we don't have to fill that out :)

Is it a Linux dedicated machine? I can't find any reference to that on their site.

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Yeah RedHat.

Actually Wil, it IS a hell of a deal Just cos your jealose

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No, not at the moment. I'm hosting 7 domains at the moment on a shared machine and I don't see myself outgrowing the service offerings for a very long time. Out of 7 domains, I only use 800mb bandwidth a month, for example :-\. And each site averages 8,000 / pm.

- wil

Another thing to add to the list is no setup fee.

Yup. A definate bonus, compared to these other people who charge $150+ for a setup!

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Some $500...ack.

In light of that, I think its not to bad that they don't offer a backup system. Even if you were to pay another $300 for a tape/DVD-RAM/other form of backup, you have still saved money!

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My philosophy is you get what you pay for.

I'd be careful with brandnew companies...

When you have gzip, a little perl knowledge and a cable modem then backing up is fairly simple.

Just run a perl script using cron to gzip all the sites and then transport them to my local server (on my home pc) using Net::FTP or whatever.

Not a robust solution but a good backup.

>>I'd be careful with brandnew companies... <<

They aren't. Myself and QooQ were doing some research on Google.

They aren't new. And, with that philosophy that why so many people get ripped of by millions of $'s of $$$ every yeah

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>>They aren't new.<<

Well, I was not able to find any info on them, so I assumed they must be new.

>>And, with that philosophy that why so many people get ripped of by millions of $'s of $$$ every yeah<<

Because so many people obviously lack grey matter...

Seriously, if you want good service, you have to pay for it. I am very sceptical when it comes to cheapy hosts.