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RTFM or STFU
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the following are my opinions and (tho i'm sure they are shared by some) have no relation to any rules set forth by Alex or the Gossamer Threads administration.
Alex, if you feel that this post is errant or should not be here, please remove it and accept my apologies.
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when you make a post to this forum, it should mean that you are having a problem that you are at your wit's end with. you have searched all the engines and news groups (and all posts on this forum) with no luck in answering your question or giving you the information you need.

the people that answer questions here have gained the knowledge they have through research and work. trial and error. you will never learn to code by having others do it for you.

i see so many people here using this forum as a proxy for their career. "You too can be a web developer with the new InfoLeech2000. Simply tell people you are one and then connect to this site!" it would be the same as me starting an automotive engine repair shop and taking every job i have to the mechanic down the street to ask him how to fix it. it might go something like this, in fact:
Me: Yeah, uh, i got this car from a customer and it gave me a problem starting it. what's wrong with it?

Mech: umm... sorry Mr. Ambiguity, but i forgot to eat my psychic flakes this morning. wtf are you talking about??

Me: sorry! uhh, well, when i turn the key it never turns over! what could be causing this?

Mech: ok, why don't we start with the basics. what KIND of car is it?

Me: oh, it's a 1972 Chevy Nova. do you think the green paint is what's causing this? let me repaint it and see if that helps.

Mech: oh dear lord... wait wait, don't do that. have you read the @!%$& manual?

Me: no, but could you please help?

Me: *bump*

Me: [back to top next day in a new conversation]

so, here is a list of information sources listed by the technology they relate to. feel free to add to this with your own links and perhaps this can be an 'RTFM' link to send all these wonderfully lazy people to.


-PERL-
www.perl.com
cpan.perl.com
use.perl.org
perlmonth.org
perl.apache.org
comp.lang.perl.misc (usenet)


-APACHE-
httpd.apache.org
perl.apache.org

-MySQL-
www.mysql.org

-PHP-
php.net

OVER-ALL
google.com (please, for the love of god, use this)
deja.com
devshed.com


thank you

-g


s/(\d{2})/chr($1)/ge + print if $_ = '8284703280698276687967';
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Re: RTFM or STFU In reply to
lol I agree - I liked your analogy :)

Here are a couple more....

www.perldoc.com
www.zend.com
http://www.perl.com/pub/doc/manual/html/pod/perlre.html (Regex tutorial)

I agree about the search engine searching too. When people ask questions in the forums that I don't know the answer to, all I do is perform a quick search at Yahoo and more often than not I find the answer and paste it here whilst at the same time appearing to be *intelligent*. It is so easy :), don't why people find it so hard to do, you get answers much quicker than posting here Smile

Search at google = 0.11sec
Post at GT, wait for answer = 1 hour (at least)


Paul Wilson.
Installations:
http://www.wiredon.net/gt/
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SCRIPT SITES:

http://www.hotscripts.com
http://www.perlscripts.com
http://www.perlarchive.com

MYSQL:

http://www.mysql.com

LOL! Totally agree!

Regards,

Eliot Lee
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Re: RTFM or STFU In reply to
Great point! Also, if your not sure of the answer but reply with a bad answer, ie bad programming practices, don't reply at all. This could lead to some confusion later down the road for newbies. I'd like to add one more to the list http://www.devshed.com, it's a great resource that covers most web-based technogies.

http://www.fullmoonshining.com for Pearl Jam Fans
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Re: RTFM or STFU In reply to
Remember mine although it's still a baby :)

http://www.perlmad.com


......aaaaaaaand some more.....

http://www.dynamicdrive.com
http://www.javascripts.com
http://www.javascript.com
http://www.cgi-resources.com
http://perlsearch.hypermart.net
http://www.cgidir.com
http://www.cgi-perl.com
http://javascript.internet.com

Paul Wilson.
Installations:
http://www.wiredon.net/gt/
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Re: RTFM or STFU In reply to
...and people wonder why there used to be non-stop screams of laughter coming from our office...

Dude, move back to AZ...

Smile

--mark

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hi..

i just downloaded links 2.0. how do i install it?

Jerry Su
widgetz sucks
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Re: RTFM or STFU In reply to
Jerry I'll give you a hand.
Go Here:
http://www.gossamer-threads.com/perl/forum

more....
http://www.ActiveState.com
http://hotwired.lycos.com/webmonkey
http://wdvl.com/...oring/Languages/Perl
http://webreview.com/developers.shtml
http://www.codebits.com/p5be
http://info.webcrawler.com/mak/projects
http://rummelplatz.uni-mannheim.de/~skoch/js/tutorial.htm
http://www.perlmonks.org
and so on.......

Bob
http://totallyfreeads.com

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Jerry, Im having the same problem, I've read the readme and searched this forum for over a minute but I don't know what permissions to set my cgi scripts to....can you help?

Nah....now thats just mean :(

Basic Instructions for installing Links2 on Unix.....

1) Download the file

2) Unzip or upload to server then unzip

3) READ THE README

4) Edit links.cfg using FULL PATHS
$db_cgi_url = "/cgi-bin"; # NOT GOOD
$db_cgi_url = "/home/sites/username/username-www/cgi-bin"; # GOOD

5) Check the path to perl in all cgi scripts
#!/usr/bin/perl or #!/usr/local/bin/perl or #!/bin/perl # USUALLY

6) Upload files to server (unless already there)

7) Chmod scripts as per the README

8) Go to http://www.yoururl.com/directory/of/admin.cgi

9) If it says db.pl can't be found, use the FULL PATH at the top of admin.cgi

10) If links.cfg can't be found , use the FULL PATH at the top of admin.cgi

11) If it still doesn't work check that EVERYTHING is filled in appropriately in links.cfg (ask your HOST if necessary.....we don't know your sendmail path Wink)!!

12) If nothing works buy "Perl/CGI for dummies".

13) Now become familiar with the admin page

14) Now add some categories and links BEFORE you rebuild otherwise it will say "Links database is 0 bytes"

15) Now build.

16) If you get an error saying pages directory can't be found check that you have the FULL PATH in links.cfg

17) If it sill doesn't work make sure the pages directory EXISTS and is WRITABLE

18) Now your pages should build.

19) Go to the main page and bob's you uncle.

20) End.

Anyone asking for help on the basics of installing Links2 should be directed here........lol




Paul Wilson.
Installations:
http://www.wiredon.net/gt/
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Re: RTFM or STFU In reply to
here is a thought to keep everyone happy,
(according to the post here)
take out the message board and have a page linking to all of the search engines!


I have been learning perl for the last couple of months, and have found this board very useful. as a developer, i do multiple tasks at a time, and knowing that i can search and post, get distracted by something else, and then have an email pop up saying someone replied to my post is great.

thats all i have to say about that
thanks to all who like to help the new guys.


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here is a thought to keep everyone happy,
(according to the post here)
take out the message board and have a page linking to all of the search engines!
Uh no thats not what they are saying. They are asking people to search and learn for themselves rather than taking the easy way out everytime and posting a question here.

Paul Wilson.
Installations:
http://www.wiredon.net/gt/