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ER Diagram Software
Hi,
I'm trying to decide which is the best ER diagram software to use and would appreciate any feedback or comparison on the following solutions (or other recommendations)-

Case 2 ($329) http://www.casestudio.com/enu/default.aspx

Datanamic Dezign for Databases 3 ($229) http://www.datanamic.com/

I'm going to use an admin solution like EMS http://ems-hitech.com/mymanager/ to manage the database and users because I can't find any ONE solution that does both database user management and ER diagraming (if you know of one, please let me know).

I have also thought about drawing solutions like Visio and SmartDraw because if I'm going to use EMS I may get into problems using two solutions that both have the abilty to alter table structures (e.g Case 2 and EMS or Datanamic and EMS). If I stuck to EMS for the table structures, relationships, etc and a drawing solution (that can't alter table structures) then I know I am safe. I guess the only thing I would miss out on is reverse engineering (which would be useful).

Any advise on the best way to go would be most welcomed.
Thank you.
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Re: [jai] ER Diagram Software In reply to
I've used both ERWin and ERStudio before, both good products.
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Buh Bye!

Cheers,
Me
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Re: [Stealth] ER Diagram Software In reply to
Thanks,

But I think both those products are very expensive ($thousands) and I don't think ERWin supports MySQL.
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Re: [jai] ER Diagram Software In reply to
Both support MySQL.
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Buh Bye!

Cheers,
Me
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Think I'll go with Visio 2003, it can do pretty well everything ER software can do (including reverse engineering) plus diagraming for a ton of other situations.

Thanks.

Simon.
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Re: [jai] ER Diagram Software In reply to
I use MicroOLAP Database designer for MySQL
http://www.microolap.com/dba/mysql/designer/
(it also supports relations, foreign keys, new MySQL versions)