Never mind that. It's that Bush's Civilised America where they only believe on smoking out of holes ( aterm often used by Bush when he was chasing laden) . One of the Americans called me "Fraud" on this forum. You have to go through all this "Mature American Immaturity" if you are not prepared to think with "American Grey Matter".

They are under high hangover of what they presumably think is victory in wars when they chanse a man on camel with their f-16's. Blow up tents and mud houses with precision guided bombs and when nothing seems to work then use cluster bombs out of frustration.

Have they ever faught a war really? Well the last time they tried was in Vietnam.

And if they really fight wars why do they look for support/ coalitions/ alliance etc etc.....

Anup

Lol you are good at propoganda, I'll give you that =)


Who's the man on the camel?

Freind of Bush....Bin Laden

That's not trouble Paul, that's just repayment of a sort that that those countries can clearly understand.

There may be more 'trouble' as the extent of the sanction regime violations by French, Russian, and other former client state companies/governments becomes clear.

Most here rarely ever think negative thoughts about Canada. Except perhaps for wondering why anybody bothers buying a NBA or MLB franchise there. I know there was great appreciation for you by much of the American flying public who were stranded all over Canada following 9/11.

What little negativity I've seen has resulted out of various rude statements about the President from a few bureaucrats in the Canadian government.

In fact the only rude statements I regularly see about the Canadian government come Canadians that I know who feel that Ottawa doesn't represent them.

I don't see any indications of problems for the trade relationship between the two countries now or in the future. If anything, Canada should fear a Democrat party win in both the legislature and the executive. That means the major labor unions would have more sway in the government and they are not fans of NAFTA.

Actually trade relations between Canada and the US are the most strained than they have been in decades. Correction, than they have ever been. As just one of many recent examples, countervailing duties against Canadian softwood lumber companies have nearly decimated the industry in Canada, throwing thousands out of work coast to coast. A number of companies have closed mills, and many are on the brink of collapse since they cannot afford the millions of dollars (US) in extra duties imposed monthly. One company even relocated to the US in order to survive. This and other similar measures exploded when the Republicans took the Oval Office. And often it's not the US-based unions that are the problem. It's the US-based companies that cannot compete with their Canadian counterparts. For example, Canadian lumber mills are more modern and efficient in design and operation, and US-based mills cannot compete. So to level the playing field, the US introduced outrageous duties. We have won these in the past through NAFTA and WTO, and the pundits favour Canada again. But it'll take years, and by then the industry in Canada will be damaged beyond repair. And the US can take similar measures again to block access to the US market. Neverending story. But there are other horror stories, including when the Americans shut out PEI potatoes because potato wort was found in the small, isolated corner of one farmer's field. Or the pending counervailing duties against Canadian wheat. And many more.

As far as NBA and MLB, they are successful in Toronto, but not Montreal (MLB) - but then they had problems supporting CFL . So one American pro sports team. There was NBA basketball in Vancouver, but that was a joke in terms of how it was operated by its American owner (when bought from local Griffiths family). The team was not properly developed, and thereby doomed. Yet was well supported by fans in the beginning until we realized it was farce - a scam as a prelude to sell the team. But not a stab at Americans - just one person who happens to be American.

The rude comments by the few Canadian politicians were improper. But then they were not meant for public consumption. No excuse nevertheless. Keep them private, and they should have known better when reporters are in proximity.

And yes, I (and all Canadians) recall the gratitude regarding the hospitality we provided the American flying public who were stranded all over Canada following 9/11. And our continuing efforts in the War on Terrorism. All greatly appreciated. All we ask that you treat us like friends, and not just as your partner to just further the US's better interests. Canadians do not see this. Nor does much of the World.

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I don't have a dog in that fight so I don't know if Canadian subsidies or retaliatory US duties are at fault. Trade frictions are natural, but at least from this side of the border they're not viewed as hindering that I am aware of. Granted it's out of my sphere of interests, but I'll jot off an e-mail to a fed economist I know and ask him to set me straight.

I do know there is some concern over the diverging commitment to NATO and other joint military operations, with Canadian defense spending standing 17th out of 19 NATO member nations by GDP.

But minor glitches aside, as long as both sides treat each other with respect I believe the relationship will remain a strong one. However it does seem that things are closer between Washington and London than with Ottawa. I think unfortunately Chrétien's staff and ministers have helped widen that gap.