What could possibly be the advantage of a person having more than one username on a forum? I noticed that one person had two user profiles under different names.

I do not see any advantage other than to use one to create havoc and have the second one to fall back on if banned.

I can only guess. Any other reasons you all can think of?


Here is an example: (note the use of Pauls email address even though it is not Paul as well)


widgetz
Title: Veteran
Status: Registered User
Registered: Oct 24, 1998, 9:00 PM
Posts: 2260 (1.6 per day)
Real Name: Jerry Su
Location: CA, USA
Occupation: Student
Interests: Many
Homepage: http://www.jsu07.com/
Email: paul@wiredon.net

and

Seto Kaiba
Title: New User
Status: Registered User
Registered: Jul 29, 2002, 8:44 PM
Last Logon: Jul 29, 2002, 10:28 PM
Posts: 2 (2.0 per day)
Real Name: Jerry Su
Location: CA, USA
Local Time: Jul 29, 2002, 10:42 PM
Occupation: Student
Interests: Many
Homepage: http://www.jsu07.com/
Email: paul@wiredon.net

I have 3 (jerrysu, as well).. I was changing to Seto Kaiba, widgetz is very old.

It's like how Eliot was once Anthrotech, then Eliot, then Stealth.
Paul used to be Paulwilson, etc.
There are many more that have changed a few times.

I would have just changed my username, but I also want a "fresh" account. The other people simply deleted all the information in their profile, but I just made this account today and haven't gotten around to it.

As for using Paul's email, just my way of not getting an email? I thought I'd fill in that Display Email with something stupid. Who's going to stop me?

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jsu

Thanks for helping me to understand YOUR intentions and the level of respect you have for others that use the forum (use of another persons email address and calling it something stupid) as well as your total disregard towards the administrators of the forum (who is going to stop me?).

I'm glad you caught both of the things I intentionally added.

1) that's not paul's email
2) so what? if paul get's spammed, not my problem..

I'm only here to help people in the General forums.. I enjoy it actually. As for Gossamer-threads, I have long since used any of their products. I am not here to kiss the ass of any moderator/admin. Rather, just to refresh on some Perl and get my brain kicking again.

Why should I respect anyone that doesn't respect others? Even if they're a moderator, who gives? The only difference is he has the power to ban me. Do I care? No. He'd be a great mod for banning someone for being disrespectful towards him while he was the one that disrespected others and myself. Hell, he'd be saving me the time I spend replying to your messages.

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jsu

So not only do you not care for other users of the forums, not care for any administrators of the forums ("I am not here to kiss the ass of any moderator/admin" - "Why should I respect anyone that doesn't respect others? Even if they're a moderator, who gives? The only difference is he has the power to ban me. Do I care? No.") but you also do not use the products represented on the forums("As for Gossamer-threads, I have long since used any of their products.").

Wow, and I thought this was the Gossamer Threads forum not the "get my brain kicking and while I am at it cause havoc, disrespect users, moderators and administrators" forum.

It does sound to me as if you are trying to point at Paul when you say "He'd be a great mod for banning someone for being disrespectful towards him while he was the one that disrespected others and myself. Hell, he'd be saving me the time I spend replying to your messages." The interesting part about that is that there is no moderator in the Chit Chat area. And the administrator is Alex who you know to be with GT in an executive position.

I do feel that your disrespect for GT, ALex and other users of this forum are unwarranted. Especially since you have been posting over and over after Pauls posts making snide and smarmy remarks and even using code to target him (die/paul/n or something along those lines).

It is painfully obvious that you have some kind of immature issue with Paul and it needs to stop. This is a request and of course I am not a moderator nor can I ban you. I just really see it as a waste that someone with such a high IQ could stoop to a level of paint can graffiti on the walls of this forum.

Eh. I _used_ GT products before. As a matter of fact, Alex gave me a Links SQL license for free. I made review.cgi for Links 2.0, mylinks.cgi, and a bunch of other mods that I do not recall.

If you asked Paul, "Has this guy ever helped you?" He'd say "Yes" or he'd be lying. Only the Veterans here would know me. Since I am only a high school student, I have given the last 1 1/2 years up for my studies. I am now here because of summer only and I have recently gotten back into the whole Perl thing.

Ha. The only reason I posted those 2 lines of perl code which included the die "Paul\n"; is because of Paul's remarks toward Eliot. Besides.. I used that line on purpose.. and included the \n on purpose. The output to that program is simply..

Paul

Used die instead of print for the humor. Am I really going to hurt someone through the use of my PERL scripting (otherwise... WORDS)?

You mentioned twice that I "disrespect users". Oh, OF COURSE I DO! I'm not going to let users put down me or other people. This forum has been the same since I left it. Paul always getting on Eliot's case about being some kind of forum monster. However, I don't [try to] disrespect others. If they find me disrespectful, there is obviously some buttkissing of mods going on.

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jsu

Well I am glad to see that at one point in time you may have been a constructive force on the forum. Now though you are being destructive.

"However, I don't [try to] disrespect others. If they find me disrespectful, there is obviously some buttkissing of mods going on." Then why would you take the time to follow up on so many of Pauls posts if you were not looking to disrespect others. Your actions do not in anyway match your words other than "You mentioned twice that I "disrespect users". Oh, OF COURSE I DO!"

I am asking you to stop. It is up to you obviously but your actions are disruptive to those of us that want to use the forum in peace and without the fear of belittling statements and remarks meant for no other purpose than to hurt people.

The purpose of the forum it to help not hurt nor disrepecting the products that are represented nor the moderators and administrators of the forums.

You have 3 choices:

1. Chill out and be a constructive force with your obvious knowledge of perl.

2. Leave. Hey if you don't like it here why be here?

3. Stay doing what you are doing and put the admin in a position that I am sure he would not like to be put in.

It is up to you!

My follow ups aren't disrespective. I don't see who's pants you're pulling those comments from. If you go and read them, I have obviously went through a bunch of threads today and replied to them. In many, I saw Paul's solution to be the only one. However, his solution was simply.. . So I replied to his posts offering a better one or more "secure" one. Am I destroying the forum by offering better solutions?

Oh. If so, then I'll just leave everything uncorrected! I'll sit and enjoy myself while I exploit your sites.

Ok. It's quite obvious this thread was started in order to attack me. I mean.. why state all that "cause havoc" junk in the beginning. Why reply? It's almost obvious you want me out. It's sad, though. I come today for the first time in so long and your thread is the first one that I offered help to (of course I didn't read the entire thread and didn't realize I posted something someone else posted [mod-rewrite]) but hey.. I tried to give you a solution. If your reasons weren't so obvious, you would send me a private message rather than post a whole thread and attack me with it.

So that's that. I'm finished.

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jsu

> I do not see any advantage other than to use one to create havoc and have the second one to
> fall back on if banned.

I believe the forum software can ban users on a per-username basis or on their IP address. If the IP address is banned then no matter how many different accounts / usernames he or she may have, they will all be denied access.

Also, banning a user can be done on a per forum or global basis.

- wil

So now you are stating in a public forum that you are going to exploit my sites?

"I'll sit and enjoy myself while I exploit your sites."

And you think threatening me and my sites is acting on a mature level?

Now it is personal!

>>
In many, I saw Paul's solution to be the only one. However, his solution was simply.. . So I replied to his posts offering a better one or more "secure" one. Am I destroying the forum by offering better solutions?
<<

Of course the irony being that his solutions didn't even work

Dude. If you want to quote me, quote the entire paragraph. You're acting like a damn politician. I didn't say I WILL exploit you. I clearly said that I wanted to help you NOT BE exploited. You're not being cool.

Paul.

I was being like you in other threads and writing code off the top of my head. Good thing you corrected me in that thread. I haven't even touched grep since my return to perl.

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jsu

I'll sit and enjoy myself while I exploit your sites.

This is you stating that YOU will sit back and enjoy yourself as YOU exploit MY sites.

That is a personal attack.

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I was being like you in other threads and writing code off the top of my head. Good thing you corrected me in that thread. I haven't even touched grep since my return to perl.
<<

Yep so in future (seeing as you know I write examples off the top of my head which won't be perfect) don't reply with such an attitude, and certainly don't make threats such as implying someone should die because what goes around comes around (it's also very immature behaviour for a 17yr old and something I'd expect in the schoolyard....and Eliot laughing at the code is even more worrying behaviour for someone aged 30).

.. it wasn't a threat. It just printed your name. Sheesh. I'm sure you saw it and though, psh oh well. Not like you saw it and felt that that I was going to come to your house in a ski mask or anything.

Also.. where do I reply with "such an attitude". I can't find any. But you've clearly done it to me. So I can't do it to you?

Teamblder.

you've done it again. You've included the else statement without the if statement. My if WAS "if you don't let me let things go uncorrected". Why don't you guys bring it to pms. Or email (email[at]jsu07.com). If you really want to say I'm going to exploit your sites. Go and call the FBI. I live in the US. Call the police department in my city. They'll read your message and call you a damn politician.

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jsu

I've said all I needed to say, the thread is destined to be locked or deleted so I'd just be wasting my breath.

I've got more rewarding issues to deal with such as finishing off the installer for a script I'm writing rather than going round in circles with a kid.

So you are trying to say that you did not say that you would sit back and enjoy yourself while you exploited my sites?

Instead of backpedalling maybe try thinking before you write something. And while you are at it, try to do it without calling people names and using cuss words too. Those are signs of a person that is either losing a debate and resorting to low blows to gain momentum or the sign of a person that is actually less smart than he/she thinks they are. Either way it does not become you.

Now back to the original reason for the post.

There is no reason for multiple usernames unless the person has a covert need. Just because a username is older is no reason to create multiple accounts. There is no advantage to a new account over an older account. If a person changes their username and maintains only one username in the system then there is no sign of potential misuse, only boredom with thier username.

Teambldr.

I haven't used a cussword yet. Maybe it's my age, but I haven't used a cussword yet. Maybe butt was the oh.. so.. bad.. cussword in your time, but it's simply the rear end in my time (ass is the same word). Sign of losing what debate? It all started cause I used paul's email and called it stupid. I am entitled to say what I want to say. And I chose that to say. I thought of it before I typed it also while smirking of course.

Wil has given a reason for more than a single screenname. I believe Paul used to be "redrum" too. But, I'm not quite sure whoever that was. Widgetz is so many years old. I don't even own the domain anymore. I'm only here for 1 month. So maybe, you'll be happy then.

The data in the profile like (posts per day) relies on the date the account was created. There's a reason to make a new account.

Lastly, if I don't see an email in my box and another message against me here. I'll take it as you wanting to slander me with the thread. What does that show? A 38 year old man throwing stones at someone less than half his age. Oh big woop.

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jsu

I believe that Wil was explaining the methods under which a persons username or IP could be banned as well as information about bans being able to be done on a forum by forum basis or globally.

That is not a reason for more than one username. Unless of course the intent is to deceive!

Also if you noticed in my last post I brought the conversation full circle. Back to the original reason of the post. If you choose to go off topic then it is you not me that is leading it that way.

Now if you would like to debate the reasons for multiple usernames then please do. If you want to continue to argue about your antics in the forum, take it elsewhere please.

By the way, I am not 38 and implying that this is your day vs. "back in my day" is arrogant at minimum and delusions of grandure for sure. Age has nothing to do with time and the ownership of time. Time owns you!

Geez, maybe we should stop this thread. It's totally resourceless and just waste both of your time. Hey Brian, mayeb just leave Jerry alone, no big deal having multiple accts! I didn't see how this will affect you and ur life here anyway. if having multiple accts is such a big issue, the admins would have set registration to be per ip and cookie basis! Full respects to all veterans or past veterans that contributed to this community, rather Paul, Jerry, Eliot, Wil, or others! We're here to help eahc other out and sometimes a little chit chat time, but we dun have to FLAME! Pms is a better way to express ur emotional feelings towards another member!

I appreciate your opinion. The original intent of this thread was to discuss reasons for multiple usernames within a forum. Of course it escalated and I have recently tried to return it to topic.

I do disagree with it being called a flame though. There was no personal attacks on my part and has been maintained as a debate. Debates are healthy and normal.

Thanks for your opinion though.

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no big deal having multiple accts!
<<

It depends on what you are using them for...deceiving people by posting under someone elses username and registering an account and using someone elses email address to bypass being spammed _is_ an inappropriate use of an account.

That is on topic Paul...Thanks. And I happen to agree.

As I stated in a previous thread, I often browse the forum under the alias 'japh' as I sometimes feel uneasy about browsing the forum with a 'loaded gun' as it were. I guess it's the same principle of not logging into a machine with root but only su when you need root privilideges. As others have the potential to use my computer I prefer to have another non-moderative alias.

I think this is a fair use of more than one alias, but if anyone isn't happy with this then I'll consider stopping this practice.

Alternatively, maybe the forum software can be set to ask for your password every time you do an administrative action. Maybe this can be another option in your user profile or something? This would certainyl be welcomed amongst the paranoid among us.

- wil

As a moderator there could be a reason to use multiple usernames. I can see that.

Thanks!


Edit: I can see the need periodically for an alias as a moderator or an admin. Do you see any uses as a user?

To be honest. When I saw that "Display Email" field, I thought.. well that's silly. It should be a radio, checkbox, or a select field to display the email you have on file. What's the point of having a Display email when it can be used to fill in random emails. So I used paul@wiredon.net to see if it even validated it. I guess not. So I figure, it's a pointless field. If it did anything, Paul would have my password by now.

[edit]Also, I am not trying to deceive people. Is there not my name at the end of every one of my posts? Maybe I should be the destructive one as teamberler puts it and start used:

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Paul Wilson
CEO- WeIRDOn. (NPI)

Paul, state your reasons for changing names 3 (or more) times. I have done the same thing and only I get accused for it.

Temabelardr

Thanks for completely ignoring my offerings. I said before that I wanted a completely resetted account. It keeps the posts per day as per when I restarted using the forums. Rather than averaging all those days I had no-posts into it. No matter how small the reason, that is still a reason. Shall it not be considered?

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jsu

Will you please drop the attitude and get back to the threads topic or don't post at all.

Thank you!

I'm simply replying to posts.

And I offered the reason why I did it for a second time only to be ignored again.

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jsu

You wanted to "completely resetted your account". I understand.

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Paul, state your reasons for changing names 3 (or more) times. I have done the same thing and only I get accused for it.
<<

I don't have to explain to you but if it will shut you up...someone had the username Paul so I couldn't register it, so I registered RedRum. Jason then free'd it up so I then used Paul.

What was the third, I can't remember?

There is a difference though...I have one at a time, not 3 or more at once....and I don't lurk under another username either.

Uh? I use 3 at once? I switched over completely once I registered this username. I registered it last night and haven't used widgetz since. Do I lurk?

Your third was before Redrum. Maybe there was something before, but when I left you were PaulWilson.

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jsu

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Uh? I use 3 at once? I switched over completely once I registered this username. I registered it last night and haven't used widgetz since. Do I lurk?
<<

I wasn't directing that at you, it was general, but some people who I won't name use 2, 3 or more at once.

PaulWilson was one step closer to Paul.

So you're saying you went from Redrum to Paulwilson to Paul?

Well, I'm pretty sure then there was something before Redrum. The first time I saw Redrum, I had no idea who it was but I later found out it was you. And I wouldn't have known who you were unless you had something before Redrum.

Even though you've cleared your Redrum account, you posted something using it yesterday. Then it was deleted shortly after. I don't remember the forum, but I remember seeing the Posted deleted by redrum. Is this the type of lurking you forementioned?

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jsu

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Even though you've cleared your Redrum account, you posted something using it yesterday. Then it was deleted shortly after. I don't remember the forum, but I remember seeing the Posted deleted by redrum. Is this the type of lurking you forementioned?
<<

Nope it's the forementioned deceitfulness as it was not me who posted...I'm sure if I gave Alex the IP though he could find out who it was...it was me that deleted the post from the Links2 forum. I have a fair idea who it was.

Oh ya. I did look at that post and was pretty unsure why you'd post under an old name and then delete it immediately.

Was the Username no longer registered and another person registered it? Well, if the guy had no idea the username would get him into any trouble, maybe he was just posting a normal Links2 question? I wouldn't know, I didn't actually read the post, I just saw it in the listings. Can one not reregister "Redrum" if it were deleted, as you had reregistered "Paul"?

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jsu

The chances of a "new" user registering RedRum are like so slim it's one of 3-4 people

Well, if the post wasn't meant to harm you, then couldn't it have been an innocent bystander?

I don't know what the post was about, so I guess I'd have to see it from this perspective, that you deleted a post from a random _new_ person. Why would they post in the Links2 forum?

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jsu

Yet another reason to keep your old aliases as seperate accounts.

Remember me posting a feature request for the availability to hold and to link old usernames?

- wil

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Well, if the post wasn't meant to harm you, then couldn't it have been an innocent bystander?

I don't know what the post was about, so I guess I'd have to see it from this perspective, that you deleted a post from a random _new_ person. Why would they post in the Links2 forum?
<<

Judging by your intense interest and your continual assurance that it wasn't you then I'm beginning to think it was.

>>
you deleted a post from a random _new_ person
<<

Nope, they already deleted in themselves, I just removed it. The wording in the post wasn't a normal newbie post.

Anyway whatever.

Lol. Things always go my way. By acting curious about what had occured, I actually got you to say it.. "Judging by your intense interest and your continual assurance that it wasn't you then I'm beginning to think it was."

Oh joy. Anyways, I was trying to get that line out of you the second you said you think 3-4 people did it.

Well, I didn't do it. Go and compare those IP addresses. Or just don't and go and make your "installer script" because you are much too busy.

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jsu

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Or just don't and go and make your "installer script" because you are much too busy.
<<

I've been working on it for about 10 hours today and only pop into the forum to laugh at your posts. It's now 12.40am so I'm not going to work on it anymore tonight.

Laugh at my posts as I did your questions back in the day.. sure why not?

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jsu

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Laugh at my posts as I did your questions back in the day.. sure why not?
<<

Yup, how the tables have turned ;) ...even Jagerman was asking silly questions at the forum a few years ago (before he became staff).

Ya.. and I still laugh at the people that have became mods. In this forum, it's just about the people that have stuck the longest. Nothing more.

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jsu

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Ya.. and I still laugh at the people that have became mods.
<<

Maybe it is bitterness because you never became one.

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In this forum, it's just about the people that have stuck the longest. Nothing more.
<<

Being a moderator isn't based on knowledge, it depends on other factors such as length of membership (Alex isn't going to make a newbie a moderator or someone with 1 post...duh) or reliability (a moderator that turns up to the forum every 6 months is kind of useless).

I disagree, check my signup date. I think reliablity and MATURITY have a lot to do with it. Who would you trust the face of your support forum to?

EDIT: I don't beleive it is solely based on knowledge either. I take myself as an example of this.

Oh ouch. You assumed I said knowledge.

I would not be bitter about something like that. Why would I want to become a mod? So I can go and edit other people's profiles? Thanks btw.

Bobsie was a good moderator. Even though he kept on the downlow, he was great.

Paul, when I left.. we had that one private talk (no i don't care if you don't remember, i don't lie!). I said sticking to those forums is stupid. You were the one of them who ridiculed Eliot and I always defended. I told you, you'd do the same. Eliot wasn't a mod, he acted like one. Telling people to search through the forums before asking questions, etc. Now.. look what happens. You stick to the forums and you're a mod now. Wow, I am a fortune teller.

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jsu

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So I can go and edit other people's profiles? Thanks btw.
<<

Sorry, no idea what you are referring to, I've not edited anyone's profile, perhaps you should speak to a staff member

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Paul, when I left.. we had that one private talk (no i don't care if you don't remember, i don't lie!). <<

No I really don't remember

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I said sticking to those forums is stupid. You were the one of them who ridiculed Eliot and I always defended. I told you, you'd do the same. Eliot wasn't a mod, he acted like one. Telling people to search through the forums before asking questions, etc. Now.. look what happens. You stick to the forums and you're a mod now. Wow, I am a fortune teller.
<<

I bet Eliot didn't tell you he got banned a few weeks ago did he?...nah didn't think so...yeah you are right, Im the ogre...boohoo.

I totally agree with you!

I knew Eliot got banned. I know all. I wasn't here to see it, but I just knew he'd get banned someday. I mean.. enough people dislike him. You know how it works.

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jsu

Uhu, whatever you say.

Had to edit that 5 times?

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jsu

Yeah, before the edit, the post was about 2 pages long just cussing you so bad.

In the wise words of your own.. Teambldr..

"Those are signs of a person that is either losing a debate and resorting to low blows to gain momentum or the sign of a person that is actually less smart than he/she thinks they are."

Bobsie.. was a great mod.

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jsu

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"Those are signs of a person that is either losing a debate and resorting to low blows to gain momentum or the sign of a person that is actually less smart than he/she thinks they are."
<<

It's a good point, but perhaps you just didn't see the sarcasm in my last post :)

Jerry,

I am not HIS own. And I am not in this portion of your conversation unless you are trying to bait me in. In which case I will make that choice, not you for me.

Thanks!

Paul, I just remembered that a mod or another user that wanted to lurk would not need another username becsuse of the option to show or not show when you are online.

The only issue here is id the Mod wants to post as someone else. Then it becomes someone posting as someone other than themselves.

Wil, what is your take on that?

No.. but what I did see was your post before you edited it 5 times.

And my reply still stands.

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jsu

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No.. but what I did see was your post before you edited it 5 times.

And my reply still stands.
<<

Yep and still my reply stands because it wasn't two pages long and didn't "cuss" ...so what did I write?

Hey Paul and Jerry!

Have you guys ever seen the Monty Python skit about the guy who went in to buy an argument?

Monty Python is way way waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay before my time, sorry :)

Read my original explanation again.

The computer I use from work has the potential to be used by others. Therefore, instead of just 'logging out' every time I visit and leave this forum (which is far too easy to forget doing) I log in and stay logged in as a 'normal' user without moderation privileges, so that these could not be abused while I am not at my desk.

It's the same security principle as that you should never ever ever, ever ever log into your machine as root or Administrator. You should only need to shift up to administrative powers when need -- and that by entering a password, too.

Until such a feature is implemented on GForum then I'll continue to use another account, as I feel this is safer than allowing the potential for anyone of my cow-orkers to edit, delete or move posts. Not that they would, I'm just covering my own back.

- wil

enough to say

"resorting to low blows to gain momentum or the sign of a person that is actually less smart than he/she thinks they are."

is still valid.

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jsu

It certainly is but didn't teambldr already tell you that 50 posts ago :)

Not for years! How does it go again: "knock knock... is this the right room for an argument?" LOL


http://www.iuni.com/...tware/web/index.html
Links Plugins

YOU GOT IT!!!

And then he pays for a five minute argument and it ends up being 20 seconds long and only a contriduction! LMAO

I love that one!

My 7th grade history teacher showed us that. I don't remember it though. Just remember he went into a room or something and sat down with some other guy and ended up like yelling at himself.

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jsu

That's almost as bad users turning of the "Visible in Who's Online" setting to off, so they can login in stealth mode... What do I care if people know I'm online.

Sean

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What do I care if people know I'm online.
<<

But if you are a forum celebrity like me, then people stalk you

Ah, great, you're online. I need you to do a bunch of perl scripting for me for free. Oh, and also, what's your home address and phone number? Just kidding.

>>Just kidding.<<

I'm glad you are, you'd be surprised how similar some pm's I get are to that and they aren't joking

I haven't gone to the stage of blocking pm's yet, I don't like that idea.

That's the price of fame I guess...

Hear hear. It gets beyond a joke sometimes. People see who are the Veterans etc, make their post in the forum, and then PM us with the link! If we are gonna answer them, then I think we would just answer their thread. People spamming us with PM's just gets on your nerves, and if they are rude in the PM, that will just deter me from replying at all!

Andy (mod)
andy@ultranerds.co.uk

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Then why don't u answer them???...

Wuz just wondering whut your knocking on my door for???..

Ed

I generally don't mind it, I enjoy helping most people and if I have the time I will....if I'm busy though I tend to ignore IM's and PM's and it can get a little annoying when you find the same people messaging you every few minutes.

"Are you there", "Answer me" .....Im not a personal programmer :)

just in case, sorry

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I apologize as well. I PM'ed you asking if you were interested in doing a custom job for me, but I did offer to pay you. I can imagine that requests for help can get overwhelming and out of hand. Although, if you weren't viewed as an asset to this community, no one would bother asking you anything. It's kind of flattering if it doesn't get taken out of hand. The main thing I believe is that no one should EVER personally ask you to do something for them without offering to pay you. I think it's rude. That's always the way for computer savvy people. Everyone is always asking you to do stuff for them for free. There have been many times when I have wanted to tell a person, "Look, I do this for a living and work at a computer all day... I don't want to come home and fix your broken computer for free. Take it to CompUSA or where ever you bought it and pay them to fix it." Anyway, if I pissed you off or got on your nerves in anyway I apologize.

Sean

QooQ, SeanP:

Nooooooo don't be silly, I didn't want that to put people off, I'm not referring to anyone like you guys.

SeanP:

I was counting the other day, and myself and another user exchanged about 60 pms in one day so as you can imagine my inbox gets pretty full and I delete big chunks of pms all at once, if I didn't reply to you I'm sorry about that, feel free to resend the pm and I'll make sure I reply to it.

Much like my mailbox. =)

Cheers,

Alex
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Gossamer Threads Inc.

Which comes back to my "forced save" function IDEA in the PM area. This way you can delete a chunk without removing the ones you want to keep by marking them a keeper when you first read them.



Just a thought but it sure makes sense!