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More informations about (around) the community script could be very helpfull.

I use Links for my business since 1997 and since some years I had the idea to combine Links with member-management and shopping-functions. There are so many things I was planning and dreaming about and I was very happy at the moment when first time the Community was discussed.

In my online-business I was No.1 in my country the last years, till one of my competitors copied my concept and created a community (and more). While I'm waiting, waiting, waiting .....

I like GT, the scripts, the forum, the discussions, the users ...... I like to use scripts which I can customize myself ... that's why I waited for the community.

My competitor hired a freak who programmed what he needed. Now I need to live (survive) with the results.

Why is no usable information possible?

Nobody is angry about news that a script is not ready, but informations like "till christmas" "shortly" "next week" are frustrating when they are some month ago.

For me it's a bad situation. I get all my income through my internet activities.

Whithout Community and Shopping my project runs only in the 2. gear,
I need to switch in 5th gear soon!!

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Yes, I agree.
Max
The one with Mac OS X Server 10.4 :)
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Wow, someone replies, and that within only 5 days!!

Thank you!

Maybe next week there will be another reply. I'm sure there will be a reply from Staff before Dow will fall down under 2000 points.

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Sir Up: Jul 14, 2002, 1:10 PM
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Don't mention stocks and shares *shudder* Unsure

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Paul: Jul 14, 2002, 1:15 PM
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Paul,

I assume you are invested in GM and SBC Comms. Bad situation Unsure

Maybe holding GT-Scrips will bring more success.

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I assume you are invested in GM and SBC Comms. Bad situation
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I'm not sure what GM and SBC are but still, Im up sh** creek without a paddle Pirate.

Whoops sorry for moving off topic.

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Paul: Jul 14, 2002, 1:28 PM
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It would be greatly appreciated if someone from GT could give some official information on this. Thank you
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Re: [nt6] Community In reply to
It's just a matter of time I'm sure. They must be pretty busy with projects to delay this for so long though.

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Re: [Eraser] Community In reply to
I bet the community addon will stun the whole net and all webmasters, probably the holiest script int he universe, no galaxy!:)
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They must be pretty busy with projects to delay this for so long though.
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I don't think this is secret but sorry if it is :)

Only Alex is working on the community apparently (to keep things consistent)....it is one staff member per script....Jason for GForum, Alex for the community etc...and as he's the president of GT I guess he has many other commitments as well as the community.

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Paul: Jul 20, 2002, 11:47 AM
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Hi,

Paul has it pretty much right. This has been my project for quite some time now, and unfortunately I have not had the time to get it to a point where it is ready to be released. It seems everytime I give an estimate, three other things pop up for me to deal with.

It's much closer now to something that I can release as we had a custom project using it.

Please remember, as I said earlier, Community only provides authentication services, similiar to MS Passport. It provides signup, login, lost password, and profile features, as well as a simple API for other programs to authenticate off of. We also have plugins for all our products that move any user features over to Community.

Cheers,

Alex
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Re: [Alex] Community In reply to
Hi Alex,



Can you give us a little more info on this part?

We also have plugins for all our products that move any user features over to Community.

Thanks!Smile
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Re: [Teambldr] Community In reply to
Hi Brian,

Sure! Basically for Links SQL it moves the authentication, user signup, login, lost password features over to community. So with the plugin installed, when a user clicks on Add Link, it will check that they have a community session, and if so get their user information from that. If not, it kicks them over to the community login to either signup or login. Once done, it sends them back to the add form. It's very similiar for the other products as well.

Cheers,

Alex
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Re: [Alex] Community In reply to
Cool Alex.

Thanks!
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Hi Alex,

Another question on Community if you don't mind.Smile



If a person has both Links SQL and GT Forum (and maybe even GMail) and currently has a userbase in both (some crossed over), will community combine the bases and somehow filter out the duplicate email addresses and inform the user of either GT Forum or Links SQL that they only have ONE username now and that the other one that they were using has been terminated?

Is this done with a pecking order such as:
First Choice: X Program
If present then check remaining programs for email and delete accounts
If none then...
Second Choice: Y Program
If present then check remaining programs for email and delete accounts
If none then...
Third Choice: Z Program
If present then check remaining programs for email and delete accounts
If none then...
Registration Page - Community

This of course is relative to the merging of the bases only and that any new user would automatically go to the Community sign up after the merge was complete.

I can see this happening on my application and I am sure that others will also.



Thanks in advance!
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bump
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Re: [Alex] Community In reply to
Hi Alex,

Will the sessions be controlled by community and will community have a better session manager than Links SQL?

Currently Links SQL does not drop the session after X time of inactivity. So when viewing all users logged in it shows everyone that ever logged in and did not log out.

Thanks in advance!Smile
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Release Date?
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Re: [giovanni] Community In reply to
the other day an announcement was listed ... I prayed, I hoped and it was something else.

openoffice + gimp + sketch ... Smile
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I thought that was quite strange. Loads of people asking for community, and autorespond is updated. Crazy
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I thought that was quite strange. Loads of people asking for community, and autorespond is updated. Crazy

Why is that strange ?
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Re: [stu2000] Community In reply to
Because there seems to be a higher demand for Community than Autorespond, and GT yet has to release even a BETA of Community or even a demo of the product. Seems "weird" to enhance a less demand product, I think that is what he or she means.
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Buh Bye!

Cheers,
Me
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Re: [Stealth] Community In reply to
I read something somewhere (by Paul) that different staff members work on different products so just because one product is realeased doesn't mean that the community development was put on hold. Alex is working on the community so another staff member is working on Autorespond (Mel I assume).

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PerlPod: Aug 21, 2002, 11:38 AM
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Purely speaking in terms of economics, one would assume that a company would invest resources where greatest renumeration is expected. Aside from economics, in terms of expectation management, this was announced a long time ago, and thus people grow impatient as something that was announced is released further and further away from the announcement date. Some people greatly desire this particular piece of software, and as such I would apply the aforementioned epithet to the decision, although if you wanted to be particularly pendantic you could attack this descriptor as being ill-suited to the perceived simulacrum of Gossamer Threads.
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Actually, Alex, himself, stated how things are done at GT, however, that still doesn't address the issue of why they are enhancing current products, while letting other very important and higher demand products go undeveloped for a long period of time.

And that, I believe is the point.
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Buh Bye!

Cheers,
Me
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Actually, Alex, himself, stated how things are done at GT
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I think it was a staff member that explained to Paul also, or so he told me.

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that still doesn't address the issue of why they are enhancing current products, while letting other very important and higher demand products go undeveloped for a long period of time.
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Sorry...I thought the post above did answer that Pirate
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Because Alex is developing it and he has limited time to devote to it due to vendor projects, etc...

I am sure it will be available sooner than you guys think. In the meanwhile, maybe questions about the upcoming product would be good use for this thread rather than dogging GT for delays in the release of community and the timing of upgrades to other products.

As well, maybe the thought should shift to upgrades in other products being needed to match up with the community plugin. I am sure that Links SQL, GT Forum, and Gmail will all need to be in sinc with the release of community.

So give them a break guys. Thanks!Wink
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Re: [PerlPod] Community In reply to
Well, it was Alex who first posted it, and then Paul reiterated that fact.

I think you missed the point in the other threads and your previous thread didn't really address it, IMO.
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Buh Bye!

Cheers,
Me
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Good points.

However, I think that they should at least release a BETA (if they have the common libraries already stable, then it seems like logical sense that they can move forward on developing and testing the product).
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Buh Bye!

Cheers,
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Frown
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I read something somewhere (by Paul) that ...

You mean to say, "I posted this information under the username Paul ..."

- wil
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Re: [Alex] Community In reply to
Hi Alex,

(repost of earlier question relative to community)

If a person has both Links SQL and GT Forum (and maybe even GMail) and currently has a userbase in both (some crossed over), will community combine the bases and somehow filter out the duplicate email addresses and inform the user of either GT Forum or Links SQL that they only have ONE username now and that the other one that they were using has been terminated?

Is this done with a pecking order such as:
First Choice: X Program
If present then check remaining programs for email and delete accounts
If none then...
Second Choice: Y Program
If present then check remaining programs for email and delete accounts
If none then...
Third Choice: Z Program
If present then check remaining programs for email and delete accounts
If none then...
Registration Page - Community

This of course is relative to the merging of the bases only and that any new user would automatically go to the Community sign up after the merge was complete.

I can see this happening on my application and I am sure that others will also.

As well, will the sessions be controlled by community and will community have a better session manager than Links SQL?

Currently Links SQL does not drop the session after X time of inactivity. So when viewing all users logged in it shows everyone that ever logged in and did not log out.

Thanks in advance!
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In Reply To:
I read something somewhere (by Paul) that ...

You mean to say, "I posted this information under the username Paul ..."
lol. This is funny stuff.

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giovanni: Aug 22, 2002, 8:37 AM
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Especiallly when people who have shown a dislike to you in the past don't know who you are and make polite replies....quite amusing how much difference a name makes Laugh

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PerlPod: Aug 22, 2002, 8:42 AM
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Lol. I would keep it quiet if I were you. Very amusing tho' while it lasted. Good stuff.
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Man...you can't keep the same name for more than a month, can you? Laugh

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Wow, you guys have a pretty good fire going. Let me add some fuel to it!

I have had my project on hold for almost a year now as a result of the community script not being available. I am willing to wait yet another year if need be. I am not a paying customer yet as I only downloaded the scripts to give me a chance to become familiar with them and really find out if they can do what I need. The good news is that GT scripts are much more than I could ever need. The truth is that I knew that I needed the community script before I knew that there was even such a thing being considered.

Programming is not easy nor quick. As most of you know, just adding a couple of mods that are already written can keep you planted in front of your computers for days just trying to tweek the script for your needs. But if you feel that writing a whole script that has the ability to play well with all of the other scripts and securely manage all of log in and user needs, while maintaining the upgrade and expandablity properties GT scripts have always offer is taking too long, then I suggest that you attempt to write your own script to do the job. I tried and 10 months later I'm still waiting on the community script.

As far as other scripts being updated, not only is each project headed up by a different staff member, it is much easier and less time consuming to modify (update) an existing script than to write a new script from scratch. That why each of the 7 or so GT scripts has 10 or more mods available for it.

By the way, Alex has emailed and posted updates regarding the script so please stop asking. If he's busy replying to the same old questions about the script, then he's not working on the program is he!

Alex, if you happen to read this, please take your time and get it right the first time. Only give the beta to a few select people who know what they are doing, that way when the final script is released, nobody will have anything to bitch about. That should make the forum pretty quiet for a while.
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It would be greatly appreciated if someone from GT could give some official information on this. Thank you


better if someone from GT would make an official release - announcement for the community-plugin!

Wink

i am looking forward to this for nearly a full year now !

Crazy

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Me too.

Will it come today? Next week? Next month? Next year? Or in 2004?

No comment from GT.

So we definetly will have to cancel our project if there is no chance to get more information about the time frame or costs. We cannot wait until 2004.

That's not very professional from my point of view.


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Brahms: Sep 11, 2002, 3:04 AM
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I very wonder about the silence from GT about this 'one of the most viewn thread' on this board.

There is only an older thread with more views, it's the helpdesk discussion (maybe also important for the users).

You should give any informations, so that people can develop their projects, instead of waiting and waiting, and stepping on the same place. I have this frustrating situation since on year.

Nobody (about that I'm not sure) would be angry if you tell that community can't be realize because of programming or something else, but don't let people wait for nothing.

Be realistic and fair! Tell us if it comes next week, next month, next year, or in 2 years, or never.

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http://www.cycle24.de

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Re: [Sir Up] Community In reply to
Hi!

From the business point of view, this would be the best situation to launch a new product, a secure sale of product, since a vacuum of demand is there.

Look from this point of view. So if there is a demand, flow with the winds. The best way to make money out of it.