Someone reported an attachment disappearing; just testing.

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Jason Rhinelander
Gossamer Threads
jason@gossamer-threads.com

Hmmm

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Jason Rhinelander
Gossamer Threads
jason@gossamer-threads.com

Well, it might help if I actually attached something to my reply attachment test

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Jason Rhinelander
Gossamer Threads
jason@gossamer-threads.com

Very nice script :)

Hmmm the Lock/Move options seems to have disappeared from moderated forums.

Ah, whoops, it was a misplaced <%endif%>.

It's back now - but note the new position on the left.

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Jason Rhinelander
Gossamer Threads
jason@gossamer-threads.com

Thanks.

Im a bit confused by the [parent] thing :) ....only seems to take you to the post above your own.

Ok I was wrong about that but I cant seem to work out how it works....what is the parent?...the post you replied too?

Yes. "Parent" is a temporary word, until we can find some better way to put the link. We're looking for some sort of word that everyone will understand to mean the parent.

WWWThreads has a "Re: Username" link to the right of the subject, but we already _have_ a "Re: [username]" in the subject. The problem with linking that is demonstrated in this post - it isn't always there.

I'm definately open to any suggestions anyone may have.

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Jason Rhinelander
Gossamer Threads
jason@gossamer-threads.com

Uh. Don't allow people to edit the subject of replied messages? Or Maybe, you can edit, but the Re: [jagerman] will get appended on afterwards. Or before, in fact...

You can edit the actual subject, but the Re: [jagerman] will be locked and linked?

Is that what you're getting at?

Actually, why not make the whole thing clickable? Maybe the Re: [jagerman] Regarding RedRum's post "Attachment test" should all be clickable?

I dunno... Too early for me...

- wil

Jason

IMO, it should be like this...

[url=parent]Re: [jagerman][/url] Regarding RedRum's post "Attachment test"

The [url=parent]Re: [jagerman][/url] part should be locked and not shown in the post reply window. It should be added after the post it made. The Regarding RedRum's post "Attachment test" can be edited as you wish.

Cheers

Wil

- wil

No, it is silly having re/regarding....just:

Re: [jagerman] RedRum's post "Attachment test"


Will do.

Yeah. I don't know where regarding came from.

It should be:

[url=parent]Re: User[/url] Subject.

The subject should be editable. The Re: User part should be added in after the post is made and non-editable. It should be clickable to the parent message.

Cheers

Wil

- wil

My point was that it should be possible to change the subject of a thread at some point during the thread, without having to use the Re: [username].

Alternatively, my reply might be aimed at numerous people, in which case I might not want to include [Wil] in there.

I suppose what could happen is that the "Re:" is linked if it is there - otherwise there isn't a link. That way if someone changes the topic completely and leaves off the "Re: [username]" bit, it won't be linked. This could be seen as a feature .

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Jason Rhinelander
Gossamer Threads
jason@gossamer-threads.com

Sounds good.


*cough*

finally understand what this thread is really about.

I'd like to be able to lop of the [username] part since 1.) I use only flatview and 2.) since sometimes I refer to several people in 1 post.

Thanks to the chit-chat area I'm up around the 600 messages but if I spent time replying individually I'd have way more than 600 posts, ( no where near like Paul but at least I'm staying close albiet minus 1 digiti ) so what Im saying is that being able to refer to several people at one time is pretty convenient and would be nice to have !

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openoffice + gimp + sketch ...

Don't measure yourself by my total.....6200 of my posts are steaming horse manure.

You can lop it off now. The 'Re: [username]' is merely a default suggestion that shows up for the message - you can put whatever you want there.

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Jason Rhinelander
Gossamer Threads
jason@gossamer-threads.com

cool then i'm happy.

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Paul,

nah only about 1,000 +/- a few are really steaming the others are actually quite hekpful, that is if you're not in the chit-chat area

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openoffice + gimp + sketch ...

Now you're just trying to flatter me lol

young'ns need to be flattered every once in a while

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openoffice + gimp + sketch ...

Hmm. I don't know if I agree with you on this point, Jason.

After all, the reason we have threaded message boards is to keep messages grouped and cross-linked/referenced.

Hmm. I don't know on this one... I don't have any suggestions of my own, but I'm not sure what you're suggesting will work.

Maybe get the same format at usenet, as in message envelope headers. "In-reply-to: #23840" somewhere? Maybe make this a viewable option in the display preferences?

If you stuck to displaying the message number, it would elimenate the headache of the name problem and the subject problem?

Cheers

Wil

Wil

- wil

>>In-reply-to: #23840" <<

Thats just plain ugly and bares no relevance to anything. People wanna see names not long id's

No. It's logical, Paul.

It's not ugly with usenet, email and whatever else systme uses it.

Names will still be there. It will just be an extra line (if people are really worrited about seeing it there).

What's wrong with something like?

Re: [wil] This is a subject [re: #4585]



- wil

As I said, ugly.

OK. I guess we differ on what our goals are.

I'm seeking increased usability and eas-of-use. I want to be able to navigate and get to the ifnromation I want quickly and with ease.

Don't really care about the colours, images and attractivness.

- wil

Me too but cluttering the subject line with ID numbers and a duplicate "Re:" seems to contradict your "goals"


I bet your vistors do

I just think that, or I like should I say the more old fashioned methos. I really do think that all posts should be with an envelope header, like so:

To: Paul
From Wil
Subject: Parent tag in message header
Re: 182930

Message body.

I think that would look a million times better.

Have you taken a look at gougle groops recently ???

That would take up way too much space doing it that way.

I'll have to disagree, Paul.

http://groups.google.com/...Dcomp.lang.perl.misc

Wil

- wil

Takes up an extra line, that's all. Looks good too.

- wil

How do you work that out? It takes up 4 extra lines. Well 3 if you don't include the subject as its already there.

And you're gaining space by getting rid of your left hand nav bar.

Don't worry. I don't want an argument about it. After all, that's what templates are for. I just don't understand the current theme and the way it's layed out.

I think a lot of BBs on the web are just copying each other for style. In fact, they're all nearly identical. And I don't agree with this basic layout. I think the idea of a message header, which has been in use with email and usenet systems for well over a few decades now, is the best tried and tested way. And I think this method should be implamented on these boards.

Why not try something new and different? A new style, maybe? I wouldn't mind designing a set of templates based on my ideas, and you can see what I think.

I just simply feel that the style of all these BBs on the web ain't working and it ain't right.

I really like Google's new layout, although I do disagree strongly with the use of frames.

Cheers

Wil


- wil

I think Gossamer Forum is a great deal different to most.

But as you say...it is probably easy enough to make the changes on your own copy.

I've moving this thread to the Questions, Comments & Suggestions forum as it is more relevant there.

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Jason Rhinelander
Gossamer Threads
jason@gossamer-threads.com

interesting -- google groups. the mail format works well there because of the left bar. With the current G-forum look having 3-4 lines is a bit too much of a block.

yeah, in sense I can see where G-Forums looks like many others. smart though, covers both sides of the coin -- threaded version and flat version -- UBB and wwwThreads. Of course there are some minor differences but lots of those have come about during the beta testing stage.

I would be interested in seeing your idea Will. But google's sytem really needs a bit of time to get used to and jumping through lots of groups is bit of a pain in the arse. I wonder if enough people compliant, complain, and suggest that a new system could be put together and help give G-Forum a difference factor that lots of other forums don't have.

yeah,yeah I know that the code is solid so it's not that type of problem.

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openoffice + gimp + sketch ...

Are you Japanese or American or English?.....that sounds very English to me

Barf....

Just went to google groups....I have to say the frames suck - looks like they threw the design together in 10 minutes. (Yes I realise it is a complexed setup)

(Watch the smilie for 10 seconds to see my thoughts)

Why yes, I believe that it does! eh!

I forgot that some of the Queen's men are here!

I was born and raised on the big continent near the border, have parents from the main continent and now live on an island. And I really had wanted to go to this year's CNE!

Oh well, had to substitue for much smaller Japanese version with goldfish dipping and crepes!

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openoffice + gimp + sketch ...

thats a cool smiley, I saw another over at WebHostTalk that had a machine gun.

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openoffice + gimp + sketch ...

I have about 200 and they rule :)

Whoops....sorry getting offtopic

It would be nice to have [in reply to: #57575] and the message number in there. Maks more sense IMO.

By the way, I'm not trying to criticise and put down GT at all. I'm just picky about design. However, I do reallly like the design and layout of the current forum, and it seems that a lot of people are very happy with it.

And what is much mroe improtant, is that the backend is absolutely flying fast at the moment. And with that all in place, who cares what colour the forum is? :-)

- wil