I hope that Alex and company do upgrade their existing VB Pluggin so it works with VB30. I am counting on it. I too have to stay with VB to remain abreast with my competitors. I selected LinksSQL and GMail because they are both excellent products but also because of the integration with the VB database. All of the other products we use integrate with VB and there other software vendors always make it a priority to ensure their integration modules remain current with vb. I sure hope Gossamer will do the same. There are plenty of other gossamer sites like us that use VB as their forums that require the same integration and their are a huge number of VB sites that would consider Gossamer products providing these plugins are provided. I guess we have to wait and see.