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I finally found the spammer!!!!

A URL submission company has added my links2 script to their software without my permission and has ignored my e-mails asking them to remove my address. The company is Submit Wolf http://www.trellian.com/swolf/index.html and I need some advice on how to proceed. Their site lists a phone number for support contact, but it isn't toll free and is in Australia. I am in the US. I will call them if I have to, but I thought I would check here first and see if anyone has any advice for me.

Thanks in advance.

~GertieBeth
http://celebrity-exchange.com
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Best way I have found to stop people spamming sites is by just changing the name of add.cgi. I usually randomly rotate it to add.cgi, add1.cgi, up to add10.cgi, but with no real system so it is harder for the spammers to find add.cgi again Tongue The chances of Trellian removing you are very low. If I were you I would just threaten them with legal action....even if you have no real intent of taking them to court Wink

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Best way I have found to stop people spamming sites is by just changing the name of add.cgi. I usually randomly rotate it to add.cgi, add1.cgi, up to add10.cgi, but with no real system so it is harder for the spammers to find add.cgi again Tongue The chances of Trellian removing you are very low. If I were you I would just threaten them with legal action....even if you have no real intent of taking them to court Wink
~GertieBeth
http://celebrity-exchange.com
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Hmm could I ask why you always reply by just quoting the post before?
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Whoops! Guess I don't know the ins and outs of this board very well...



I replyed that I have implimanted the random password generator, the referer fix and have changed the name of the script, but that doesn't stop the fact that I still have 500+ CGI calls every hour on my Raq...
~GertieBeth
http://celebrity-exchange.com
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They responded !

SubmitWolf wrote back, but now are accusing me of spamming them!! <shakes head> The messages they are getting from me are request denials for sites being submitted through there own software...



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Hello,

We sincerely regret any inconvenience this may have caused you and we will immediately REMOVE your website from the Engine Scripts of SubmitWolf PRO. It is possible, though unfortunate, that due to maintaining such a large database that this site may have slipped through. We are aware of the problems that this may cause and will see to it that this kind of thing does not occur again.

On the other hand we ask that you immediately cease ALL activities regarding illegally spamming our Sales and Support Department inboxes with unsolicited mail. This activity will not be tolerated regardless of the issue at hand and we strongly suggest that you stop at once otherwise we will be forced to take further action.

Thankyou in advance for your understanding in this matter
Kind Regards,

Torsten Loebert
mailto:support@trellian.com
Trellian Support
http://www.trellian.com

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So, they obviously haven't removed my address, otherwise they wouldn't be getting any email denials from me.

Should I say "screw it" and forget the whole thing? Mad
~GertieBeth
http://celebrity-exchange.com
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Re: [gertiebeth] Legal Advice In reply to
Calling your mails "unsolicited" shows their business attitude. Just ignore their barking once they have removed your site.
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My favorite mail is from the "opt-in" mailing lists where you never opted in.

--Philip
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They responded !

SubmitWolf wrote back, but now are accusing me of spamming them!! <shakes head> The messages they are getting from me are request denials for sites being submitted through there own software...



quote:
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Hello,

We sincerely regret any inconvenience this may have caused you and we will immediately REMOVE your website from the Engine Scripts of SubmitWolf PRO. It is possible, though unfortunate, that due to maintaining such a large database that this site may have slipped through. We are aware of the problems that this may cause and will see to it that this kind of thing does not occur again.

On the other hand we ask that you immediately cease ALL activities regarding illegally spamming our Sales and Support Department inboxes with unsolicited mail. This activity will not be tolerated regardless of the issue at hand and we strongly suggest that you stop at once otherwise we will be forced to take further action.

Thankyou in advance for your understanding in this matter
Kind Regards,

Torsten Loebert
mailto:support@trellian.com
Trellian Support
http://www.trellian.com

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oh.. so its ok for them to spam you, but its not ok for you to spam them?

They do not like spam, yet they deliver it....

Warp.

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So what is the spam they are accusing you of sending?