Hi

I suspect that the first thing most people do when they install Links is rip all CSS out, I can understand this as browser support for CCS is not exactly fantastic at the moment.

In addition there has not been a way to try different style sheets with the same HTML... till now! Check out this cool style sheet server: http://www.kynn.com/vstyle/

I have it set up on the Links site on my new home page: http://chris.croome.net/links/ and there are four style sheets you can choose to apply here: http://chris.croome.net/css/

The only problem is that it doesn't always work with MSIE, it does work most of the time with NN and it works best with http://www.mozilla.org/

If this style server gets properly sorted then it would be cool if Alex site ran it with Links and if people contributed a load of different style sheets for people to try and use.

Chris

How do u edit the style css??? I wanna make my search site reflect the design of my Banner Exchange site but dont know css..
Thanks

hi

look at the comments at the top of links.css - they point to places to get css info from

chris

I haven't checked my site http://www.2ants.com/ with Netscape yet but I'm afraid to. I went to the link exchange and used the Site Inspector feature. With IE it reported no problems. With Netscape it reported problems too numerous to mention all relating to CSS. I haven't made too many changes to the links.css file.

The problem with Cascading Style Sheets (.css) is that most of their features only show up in later versions of MIE. While it is easy to maintain pages with, it is a user's nightmare.

Regards,

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Anthro TECH, L.L.C
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Eliot,

It's the other way round! CSS is a standard that would give universal accessibility, if only the browsers weren't so proprietary.

IMHO, the use of CSS was one of the major advances in upgrading from Links 1.1 to 2.0. My compliments to Chris for his work!

John

Hi Loser

Your page looks fine in NN4 :-)

The only problem is that you have not changed the background image address:

background : #ffffff url("http://localhost/links/pages/background.gif") repeat-y;

I guess you don't want an image so change it to this:

background : #ffffff;

With regard to some script which *thinks* there are problems with the default CSS for Links and Netscape - it's not true!!! I have spent a *lot* of time playing with CSS with different browsers and there are actually a *lot* of work arounds in links.css which are in there *specifically* for Netscape to make sure everything works OK. Netscape 4.x is bad at CSS but nowhere near as bad as MSIE3....

Eliot - the thing about CSS is that older browsers don't get it so as long as stuff is done so it works in older browsers then there is not a problem. Try the default Links HTML/CSS in Netscape 1 or Lynx

Chris

Well...I always shoot for universal accessibility and .css does not support this principle.

Just my two cents.

Regards,

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Eliot Lee
Founder and Editor
Anthro TECH, L.L.C
http://www.anthrotech.com/
info@anthrotech.com
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http://www.coco.cc.az.us/
Web Technology
Coordinator
elee@coco.cc.az.us

gotze --

if the major browsers don't support the 'standard' then it's not really a 'standard' is it? It's just a well defined set of rules, that have yet to be adopted or implemented.

It will be a long time before style sheet support is 'universal'

Perhaps it will give a better long-term solution than plain HTML, but right now, I can make the page look the way I want with plain HTML, but I can't guarantee that will happen with CSS...

Until CSS is a not only a 'standard' in the ISO sense, but IMPLEMENTED as a standard by the major browsers, it's a nice idea, but creates more problems for a 'universally' accessible site than it solves.

pugdog,

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Hear! Hear! I totally agree. Presently, we as designers and programmer cannot gaurantee consistent user experiences using CSS. Yet it is not only a problem with browsers. There is a human dimension that we need to address. Human dimension in terms of economic and social aspects. The WWW is not a world-wide communication vehicle...yet. If you look at the world-wide access statistics, you will see that less than twenty percent of the world's population has access to the Internet (refer to www.aj.com, www.internet.com, www.cnet.com).

In terms of economics, it costs money to upgrade personal computers and also purchase new systems that support recent Internet technologies. Relying on users to always upgrade to the recent web browsers is ridiculous. And even if they have recent browsers, some users turn off many features, such as images, javascripts, etc. to increase connection rates to web resources.

Anyway, while I commend Chris' efforts, I think that we as web designers and programmers need to be sensitive of the humanistic aspects of technology and strive to make our web pages have consistent interfaces that will lend to more universal experiences of our web visitors.
</soapbox>

Regards,

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Eliot Lee
Founder and Editor
Anthro TECH, L.L.C
http://www.anthrotech.com/
info@anthrotech.com
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Coconino Community College
http://www.coco.cc.az.us/
Web Technology
Coordinator
elee@coco.cc.az.us

[This message has been edited by Eliot (edited September 30, 1999).]

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