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A colocated server is just a server you own and locate remotely at an ISP. A "dedicated server" often (but not always) implies the server is leased from the ISP (otherwise you'd probably refer to it as a colo server...).

But.... colocated servers may be dedicated to my business, but I might share them among accounts.

Buying your own machine is a better value, in my mind, than leasing one from the ISP. If you "rent" or "lease" dedicated server space from your ISP, you are, in effect, paying a portion of that monthly charge for the server, and a portion for the bandwidth.

If you'd like, think of the "hosting packages" as really combining 3 parts (plus extras, such as backup, support, etc).

1) the costs of bandwidth (everyone has this cost)
2) the costs of the server -- hardware for the physical server, service contracts, etc.
3) overhead -- the costs of housing the server at the ISP -- floor space, cables, electricity, air conditioning, etc.

In a "package" these costs are listed as a single value.

if you co-locate your server, the costs of #2 are taken out of the costs of the package, which can drop a $1700 hosting package to $1000, you are covering the costs with #1 and #3. Some ISP's figure the cost of #3 in with #1, others itemize the costs, and provide a varying degree of space -- a shared rack, a shelf, shared shelf, dedicated rack, dedicated cabinate, etc.

On top of #1, #2, and #3, you have the costs associated with maintaining the server -- software, upgrades, backups, etc. Some ISp's will include that in the price they quote for #1 or #'s1,2,3 or provide it as an add on for x-$ per month.

If you simply want to run your server, don't need the ISP to do more than make sure the machine is on, stays on, and you have access to your machine (as I do, with my ISP just down the road) I can buy my machine, coloacte it there, and do all the things I need my self. I pay for #1 with the costs of #3 included in the bandwidth costs (for one machine), and #1 includes restarts, and the basics of physically keeping the machine "on" and booted. I do everything else.

If you simply want to run your business, and you look at the lease costs of the machine as the costs of doing business, then you simply get the dedicated server package from your ISp. The ISP actually takes out the "lease" on the machine (even if they pay case, it's depreciated like a lease) on your behalf, and gives you use of that machine. To protect themselves, they include a service contract fee (either to a 3rd party like Panasonic or Honeywell, or self-insuring), and that way, they can upgrade, fix, repair, improve, whatever your machine, as long as they give the resources (at LEAST) you contracted for.

Does this make sense?

If you figure your business will grow, a package from your ISP that will let you move up without penalty (most will) is best. You don't own any hardware, they do, and they just move it around between customers as needed.

If you prefer to have your own hardware, control the entire set up, and take charge of the machine yourself, buying the machine is better, and you just allow the ISP to "care for it". Some ISP's will even offer you the in-house service contracts on your machine -- just like the electronics stores <G>

There are a lot of different ways and plans to go. Finding one that is right for you takes work, but when comparing two plans, again, make sure you are really comparing _EXACTLY_ the same thing, or you know how to make conversions (such as a 400 mhz Sparc with 256 meg of Ram vs the same specs on an Intel chip -- the Sparc will beat it into the dust. You'd need a 700+ Intel chip with 1gig of RAM to come close to the sparc....)

Anyway, again, just make sure you know what you need, what you are getting, and when comparing two plans, make sure you compare Golden Delicious to Golden Delicious.



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