Gossamer Forum
Home : Products : Gossamer Mail : Discussion :

mailing lists

Quote Reply
mailing lists
Does anyone know how users can receive messages from mailing lists they are subscribed to?

Mail list posts are usually sent out with the mailing list address in the "To" field, so under a shared environment GM won't know who to deliver the message to. Or at least doesn't seem to know who to deliver it to in my tests. It tries to deliver it to a user with the same address as the mailing list and fails because that address obviously does not exist in the database.

I don't know enough about the technical side of how mail list messages are delivered to the correct address, so I'm not sure what needs to happen to make this work with GM.

Michael Coyne
Quote Reply
Re: mailing lists In reply to

Most modern mail servers will put the email address in the 'Delivered-To' header, or the 'Received for' lines. Gossamer Mail scans these headers looking for users email addresses.

For example, the header to a mod_perl mailing list I am on looks like:

Return-Path: <modperl-return-17543-alex=gossamer-threads.com@apache.org>
Delivered-To: alex@gossamer-threads.com
Received: (qmail 20467 invoked from network);
4 Jul 2001 16:37:38 -0000
Received: from unknown (HELO apache.org) (
by gossamer-threads.com
with SMTP;
4 Jul 2001 16:37:38 -0000
Received: (qmail 96365 invoked
by uid 500);
4 Jul 2001 16:37:11 -0000
Received: (qmail 96350 invoked from network);
4 Jul 2001 16:37:10 -0000
Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2001 11:36:20 -0500 (CDT)
From: Randy Kobes <randy@theoryx5.uwinnipeg.ca>
To: frans <frans@gerbang.lc.itb.ac.id>
cc: "raphi.net@voila.fr" <raphi.net@voila.fr>,
Subject: Re: mod_perl on win2k: cannot load module
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.05.10107041210240.1001-100000@gerbang.lc.itb.ac.id>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0107041131270.28239-100000@theoryx5.uwinnipeg.ca>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Spam-Rating: h31.sny.collab.net 1.6.2 0/1000/N
This is how Gossamer Mail receives BCC's as well.



Gossamer Threads Inc.
Quote Reply
Re: mailing lists In reply to
Below is a copy of the header from a message I received from one of the mail lists I am on. They use LISTSERV which is pretty standard I think. I don't see a 'Delivered-To' or 'Received for'. The only reference I see to my own email address is in the first 'Received' line where later in the line is has 'for mcoyne@seaturtle.org'. Is that the 'Received for' you are referring to? Should GM pick that up (I haven't tried with this particular list yet)?


Return-Path: <owner-cturtle@LISTS.UFL.EDU>
Received: from spnode30.nerdc.ufl.edu (sp30fe.nerdc.ufl.edu [])
by chelonia.seaturtle.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f63EF7N21610
for <mcoyne@SEATURTLE.ORG>; Tue, 3 Jul 2001 07:15:07 -0700
Received: from spnode30 (sp30fe.nerdc.ufl.edu [])
by spnode30.nerdc.ufl.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2/2.2.1) with ESMTP id f63EEmW28862;
Tue, 3 Jul 2001 10:14:48 -0400
Received: from LISTS.UFL.EDU by LISTS.UFL.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d)
with spool id 15097 for CTURTLE@LISTS.UFL.EDU; Tue, 3 Jul 2001
10:14:47 -0400
Received: from mail.frostburg.edu (mail.frostburg.edu []) by
spnode30.nerdc.ufl.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2/2.2.1) with ESMTP id
f63EEkW06852 for <cturtle@lists.ufl.edu>; Tue, 3 Jul 2001 10:14:46
Received: from pplotkin ([]) by mail.frostburg.edu (Sun Internet
Mail Server sims.3.5.2000. with SMTP id
<0GFW00KO7HQWMO@mail.frostburg.edu> for cturtle@lists.ufl.edu; Tue,
3 Jul 2001 10:04:09 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-version: 1.0
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0)
Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit
Importance: Normal
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
Message-ID: <IGEIIPEOIHHGDECACIPBMEBHCFAA.pplotkin@frostburg.edu>
Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2001 10:14:40 -0400
Reply-To: pplotkin@mail.frostburg.edu
Sender: Sea Turtle Biology and Conservation <CTURTLE@LISTS.UFL.EDU>
From: Pamela Plotkin <pplotkin@mail.frostburg.edu>
Subject: International Fellowship Program
Status: RO

Michael Coyne
Quote Reply
Re: [Alex] mailing lists AND BCC In reply to
OK, I get the bit about the 'Delivered-To' and 'Received for' headers.

However, I am on a listserv maillist where I registered with both a pop account and a gmail account. Mail from the list to my pop account has my address in the 'Received for' header, mail to my gmail account does not. That tells me the problem is local, not with the listserv.

Is there some trick in setting up the catch-all to getting sendmail to carry over the recipient address in the header? I have noticed the same issue with mail sent BCC. Gmail can't determine who it was sent to and bounces it.

Does anyone know how to get this to work? It's pretty critical, particularly the fact the BCC doesn't appear to work for me.

Sorry if this has already been covered. I searched for BCC and blind and carbon, but got no matches for any of them.

Michael Coyne
Quote Reply
Re: [mcoyne] mailing lists In reply to

I am having same problems with BCC and mailing lists. I tested GM with majordomo lists and sure enough message bounces. Furthermore, BCC addressed messages again bounce.

Has anyone figured out a fix for this?


Quote Reply
Re: [frankLo] mailing lists In reply to
Can you post the header of the email which is not being delivered? Thanks.