This stems more from legal concern particualrly with gmail (google) now covering and expanding ground slowly. Are there any plans to replace the X-gmail headers from mail headers so that there are no remotest possibility of any legal complications on license owner?

If yes then when can this be expected.
If "Next Release" is the answer then when can the Next Release be expected?

A definitive confirmed answer would be appreciated on this. We have physically witnessed a guy pay heavy arbitration fees for fighting a case in WIPO for booking/owning and ultimately losing cerelac.com just because Nestle was the primary complainant party.

If your legal advisors have advised that there would be no legal complications of any nature then can tat be made public to license holders? We would not want to be in situation where we are sued or made to clsoe shop just coz the headers have something "similar" sounding and looking viz "Gmail" in headers. A case like Windows Vs Lindows. Who Knows?

I am putting this much ahead of any visible waves so that the same does not come about to be in category of "Custom Work" if need be.

HyTC

Trademarks for names are based on first use and we have prior use of the name gmail, hence the legality of our use is not an issue.

Jack.

gmail trademark is two years old.
x-gmail thing appeared in which version exactly i am not aware as we jumped straight from 2.1.0 to 2.2.0.

Even Adsense Trademark or Patent, I think Google is an assignee
gmail.com again a "commercial first usage" existed even before Google did.

Currently The Market Watch presumably holds the Trademark to gmail
So this needs a deeper look obviously.

HyTC

We do have a trademark lawyer working with us on this both in the US and in Canada and have been working on this for many months now.

Jack.

My concern comes from following patent document:

http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&Sect2=HITOFF&p=1&u=/netahtml/search-bool.html&r=1&f=G&l=50&co1=AND&d=ptxt&s1=x-gmail&s2=gmail&OS=x-gmail+AND+gmail&RS=x-gmail+AND+gmail

Thanx
HyTC

The following site shows GMAIL ™ on the following url:

http://www.cencourse.com/pages/855185/index.htm

Between 30th March 2004 and 7th April 2004 the above company is one of the four for TM rights with Google being the fourth in the list. Surely Google wouldn't like to lose that so it would be a deal settlement with Google emerging winner at the end of the day. As license holders however, we would be desiring a clear note from GT on this issue whether x-gmail in header is legally allowed to be transmitted using Gossamer Mail.

HyTC

This is the oldest "First Use" detail amongst the list Live at USTPO ::

Word Mark GMAIL Goods and Services IC 038. US 100 101 104. G & S: Communications services -- namely, transferring of electronic messages for groups of two or more people by means of a global computer network. FIRST USE: 19980120. FIRST USE IN COMMERCE: 19980120

Standard Characters Claimed
Mark Drawing Code (4) STANDARD CHARACTER MARK

Serial Number 78395746

Filing Date April 2, 2004

Owner (APPLICANT) Precision Research, Inc. CORPORATION CALIFORNIA 1211 Bajada Santa Barbara CALIFORNIA 93109

Attorney of Record Kyle W. Rost


HyTC

Hi Anup,

Thanks for the information, we're been aware of it for some time now.

An official announcement will be posted when more information is available, at this time, we will not post legal advice on the forum until our lawyers provide us with factual information that we can disseminate to our users. No further posts will be made by us to this thread.

Jack.

Sorry I am not Anup
Me And Anup Are Like Alex And You

HyTC

[EDIT]
Incidently, He also had asked the same question much before the rush to USPTO with 700$ (or roundabouts) in hand ended on the following thread which started and ended with the query

http://www.gossamer-threads.com/perl/gforum/gforum.cgi?post=264699

[/EDIT]

Don't you know Jack and I are the same person?

Cheers,

Alex
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Gossamer Threads Inc.

Oh Yeah From Organization point of view :D

HyTC

Hey Alex,

Quote Unquote from Webmaster of vcstudios (Just the relevant part)


I have just boldened the "and"
So my knowledge definitely was not mislead on any presumptions :=)

HyTC

Thanks
HyTC
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