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FWIW -- the programs I've tried, used, and narrowed down to the finalists were:

1) SQL Admin - phpMyAdmin -- requires PHP, but makes managing the SQL server _bearable_ and almost fun Smile

2) phorum - PHP based Forum software - good features, very powerful, but you need to know PHP to really use it.

3) Sporum - perl-based forum software, clone of UBB & wwwthreads (lots of barbs back and forth between those three products). Sporum is advancing rapidly, and has a "community" goal with email and private forums, etc. Not a bad program, but the install has gotten complex, and the docs are incomplete, and you are pretty much on your own -- if you are going to try it -- you install the "sp" programs first in your cgi-bin, then the "sporum" software into that directory, and then the mail program if you use it. the "sp" acts as a "manager" program for web-based admin. Not very clear in the forum/docs. I chose to _not_ use it mainly because the color scheme and other layout details bothered me -- and it really looked bad on MSIE with my high speed connection.

3) wwwthreads -- really maturing -- version 5 is a UBB clone (the colors have to be lightened a bit to make it more readable (it has a "dark" executive look, while UBB has a light-airy look Smile It's moving to a "community" theme as well, and has ways of ranking posters, and other features that were very appropriate to my sort of site. It also has a proven trackrecord and a loyal -almost religious- following. I chose it over Sporum mainly for the community features it had, and that it seemed to be a lot easier to get working Smile

4) fishcart -- PHP shopping cart program -- I'm still debating this one. I have to learn PHP to use it... and I'm really waiting for minivend 4.0 to reach beta first.

5) MiniVend -- C and Perl based, powerful, etc, ad nauseum. Probably the best way to go because it _is_ open source, and C/perl-based (read NOT php, ASP, etc), long track record, fanatical following, strong leadership, a large consulting base, etc. If you are staking your business on a product, you _want_ it to be open source. A shopping cart is one of those products that your economic livelihood eventually depends on -- you don't want their corporate takeover or bankruptcy to affect you. Version 3.xx is a bear to install and customize... 4.0 promises to be much easier with more features.

6) WebCart -- perl based, [expensive -- but not as much as others] was a last minute contender... but I thought long and hard about the points made for the MiniVend option above, and I went back to banging away at fishcart and hoping that the MiniVend 4.0 beta will be available soon <IMG SRC="http://www.gossamer-threads.com/scripts/forum/resources
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OK, well, in order to confirm your "religious" comment about WWWThreads <grin>:

- I really don't think that WWWThreads is a UBB clone. It's true that it has picked up many of the good aspects from many discussion boards. But with all respect due to UBB, which is a great piece of software, WWWThreads has a mySQL database back-end, which means that a lot more things are possible... including the ability to switch back & forth between "threaded" and "flat" modes, which is a favorite debate topic when considering the merits of various boards.

- FYI, the colors are fully configurable through a "theme" file... if you like "airy", check out my own discussions (see my profile, go to my site, and click on "discussions"). Airy as can be <grin>

So what I'm praying for, now that WWWThreads is testing a Links implementation in the resource area, and now that WWWThreads has introduced an embryonic user database API, is for a measure of integration between the two - maybe sharing user databases, maybe using WWWThreads for reviews of individual links, maybe ratings of users which would cross over between the two systems, etc... is anyone around here working on stuff like that?

Regards,
Stephan
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Does this look screwed up to everyone else?

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I'll see if I can fix this Smile

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It definitely looks messed! Something has sure gone amiss on the BB - all sorts of odd things happening recently.

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What happened to those hints tossed around in the past year that Alex might work on writing his own forum software...? Wink

Dan
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Apologies if I was responsible... I have a bad habit of putting "grin" in brackets, I wonder if these got mistaken for html commands.