Gossamer Forum: General: Perl Programming: Why won't this work in Netscape?

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Sep 17, 2001, 3:11 AM

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Why won't this work in Netscape?

Could someone give me some suggestions as to why this page:

http://server5.hypermart.net/philipclark/netscape/

won't work in Netscape please.

It works perfectly in IE 6.0 and validates fine at http://validator.w3.org/ but the layout goes crazy in Netscape 4.7.

Can someone help?

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Sep 17, 2001, 3:22 AM

nolimit

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Sep 17, 2001, 3:22 AM

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Re: [Philip_Clark] Why won't this work in Netscape? In reply to

In Netscape 6 it works.. So you just have a problem with older versions of Netscape.
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Sep 17, 2001, 3:30 AM

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Sep 17, 2001, 3:30 AM

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Re: [nolimit] Why won't this work in Netscape? In reply to

Well that's good to hear. Thanks nolimit Smile

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Is anyone able to test it in IE 5.5 and IE 5.0 for me?

Can someone with Netscape 4.7 give me any suggestions as to why it isn't working please.

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Philip_Clark: Sep 17, 2001, 3:33 AM

Sep 17, 2001, 3:38 AM

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Sep 17, 2001, 3:38 AM

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Works fine in IE 5.5.

Download a free copy of [url=http://www.macromedia.com]Dreamweaver[/url] from Macromedia. It's a powerful HTML editor, with a feature to allow you to test your pages as they would appear in older browsers going back to version 2 of Netscape/Mosaic. I believe there is a service from [url=http://www.websitegarage.com]Web Site Garage[/url] that also does this on the net for a small fee.

Cheers

- wil

Sep 17, 2001, 3:54 AM

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Sep 17, 2001, 3:54 AM

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Thanks for the suggestion Wil. Seems like a good thing to do Smile

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Ouch - the demo is 24MB. Looks as though its going to take a while to download it on my 56k modem Unsure

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Does the page display exactly like this Will & nolimit: http://server5.hypermart.net/...scape/screenshot.jpg on IE 5.5 and Netscape 6?

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Sep 17, 2001, 4:20 AM

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Sep 17, 2001, 4:20 AM

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Hm I'd forget dreamweaver. Try searching Yahoo for browserola.

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PaulWilson: Sep 17, 2001, 4:47 AM

Sep 17, 2001, 4:29 AM

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Sep 17, 2001, 4:29 AM

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Thanks Paul Smile

. I'll have a look.

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Sep 17, 2001, 4:35 AM

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Sep 17, 2001, 4:35 AM

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Philip

Screenshot = yes it does.
Dreamweaver = worth the D/L. Leave it running overnight.

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Sep 17, 2001, 4:47 AM

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Sep 17, 2001, 4:47 AM

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Yeah until you get disconnected at 23MB...hehe

Sep 17, 2001, 4:51 AM

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Sep 17, 2001, 4:51 AM

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Ah the joys of our wonderful communication infrastructre in the UK Wink

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Sep 17, 2001, 4:53 AM

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Sep 17, 2001, 4:53 AM

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Thank goodness that our area just got "cabled" - just got a shiny new cable modem - no going back to 56k....not when you can download an 832MB file in 25mins :)

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Sep 17, 2001, 4:56 AM

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Sep 17, 2001, 4:56 AM

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Great news for you! I'm on a T3 line in work (fibreoptic to the JANET network). However, I've still got my trusty 28k US Robotics modem at home which has been with me for around 6 or 7 years now!

Wil

Sep 17, 2001, 5:00 AM

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Sep 17, 2001, 5:00 AM

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Great news for you! I'm on a T3 line in work (fibreoptic to the JANET network).

Cool, my university network is connected to JANET. I asked the university if they would consider letting me connect a server to the network a few months ago (because I couldn't afford the dedicated line), and they were actually going to agree...then I bumped into Ed so didn't need to anymore.

I often got/get over 200k/s at university. The fastest I've reached on my cable modem is 365k/s from DMOZ.org - strange considering my bandwidth is supposed to only be 512kbps....lol

I think Junko told me he reached 35k/s from DMOZ.org on a 56k

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Sep 17, 2001, 5:06 AM

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Sep 17, 2001, 5:06 AM

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Yeah, JANET are now placing much tighter controls on commercial use of their services. I believe that a license for a dedicated server has gone up in price tremendously recently and set to go up again towards the end of the year. Still cheaper than any other hosting provider, but not as reliable - although on the plus side they do tend to be very leanient and let you get away with a lot.

Funny how you get the best results from dmoz.org? The site's running Apache on Solaris and connected to the net through Netscape's backbone. I'm actually looking for my own dedicated server at the moment, for personal use. What about cable? Are you allowed static IPs on cable? Can you be it on 24/7 for a reasonable cost?

Wil

Sep 17, 2001, 5:08 AM

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Sep 17, 2001, 5:08 AM

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Hi,

Sorry philip but that URL is really annoying - it is impossible to maximize the window.

When you try to expand it another popup opens and condenses the page again.

Thats with AOL.....but it does the same with IE5.5 except the window stays maximized....howevver a popup open if you change the borwser position.

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Sep 17, 2001, 5:37 AM

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Sep 17, 2001, 5:37 AM

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What about cable? Are you allowed static IPs on cable? Can you be it on 24/7 for a reasonable cost?

Well I'm with NTL and they say it is dymamic allocation but I've had the same IP for about 2 weeks now.

The connection is always on - I pay £25/month for 512kbps and you have a permanent connection at no extra cost.

Do you need a dedicated server for personal use?.......If you have a cable modem and an average pc, that seems to work well for me.

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PaulWilson: Sep 17, 2001, 6:21 AM

Sep 17, 2001, 6:09 AM

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Sep 17, 2001, 6:09 AM

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Paul

I use the term 'Dedicated Server' loosely. So really, I can get the cable company to give you a static IP. Then I can grab an old machine, convert into a gateway, and have a huge local network behind one static IP for only £25 a month?!!!!!!

Are you sure about this? I could connect 50 or so machine and load them through my single connection for £25 a month? Sounds too good to be true, really!

And with my 'dedicated server' I just have an old 233 with linux loaded up which I would use to serve. Good enough for the job, throw in some extra RAM and I'll be laughing...

Wil

Sep 17, 2001, 6:19 AM

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Sep 17, 2001, 6:19 AM

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Then I can grab an old machine, convert into a gateway, and have a huge local network behind one static IP for only £25 a month?!!!!!!

Are you sure about this? I could connect 50 or so machine and load them through my single connection for £25 a month? Sounds too good to be true, really!

Well in theory, but firstly they don't allow static IP's by default so you'd proably have to pay extra if they allowed it at all. Secondly they don't appreciate people running busy servers so you'd probably get booted :) (but not if it was for personal use)

They are releasing a 1mbps deal in the near future I think so you may wish to go for that as there is a chance it would include a a static IP.

Ack.....we've really brought this thread off topic.

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Sep 17, 2001, 6:28 AM

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Sep 17, 2001, 6:28 AM

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Paul

Yes we have brought the thread way off topic; but thank you for the information. I'll have to look into this as a serious option. I wonder how long it'll be before it hits us on the West coast. I'll take a look at their websites.

Wil

Sep 17, 2001, 7:46 AM

Watts

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Sep 17, 2001, 7:46 AM

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Philip, recently had a similar problem w/ news scroller & stylesheet. For some reason the TD style command really screwed things up. As soon as we took out the TD class it worked. Experiment - you may have to name all TD tags, even TD.none for standard "plain-jane" tags.

Also, if you're using absolute positioning in your styles that'll really screw up 4.7

Also, also, I've experienced problems with external javascripts where I had to remove the <!-- tag from the beginning & end of the script.

Anyway... hope this helps.

Sep 17, 2001, 6:59 PM

AstroBoy

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Sep 17, 2001, 6:59 PM

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Yep, Watts is right on all accounts.

Also, you might want to add marginheight="0" marginwidth="0" to your body tag to get the page to extend right to the borders of the window in Netscape.

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Sep 17, 2001, 7:10 PM

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Sep 17, 2001, 7:10 PM

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Thanks guys. I've managed to get the page working perfectly in Netscape Smile

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I took the scroller out as I couldn't get it going in Netscape Unsure

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Just added marginheight="0" marginwidth="0". Thanks Mark.

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Sep 17, 2001, 7:15 PM

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Sep 17, 2001, 7:15 PM

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Damn it doesn't display correctly in IE 4.0 or Netscape 4.0 Mad

Well how many people still use IE 4.0 and Netscape 4.0 anyway?

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Sep 17, 2001, 8:11 PM

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Sep 17, 2001, 8:11 PM

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Still enough to test it in those browsers... Wink

(like around 25%, I believe for MIE 4.0, but depends on your users...varies from site to site..."worldwide" browser stats have been posted in this forum before)....
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Sep 17, 2001, 8:45 PM