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Greenpeace Action Alert
August 23rd, 2002

Tell the White House to Protect Our Food Supply

In early August 2002, the White House released a new proposal to regulate genetically engineered (GE) crops. Under the Bush Administration's corporate-friendly "guidance" (non-binding proposals that even if enacted would be voluntary), the biotech industry will be allowed to push ahead with new GE crops even if the crops have not been safety tested. Tell the White House that you want GE crops kept out of our food supply!

Be sure to take action now as the comment period ends September 30th.

Send an email and fax to the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy:

http://www.greenpeaceusa.org/bin/actionframe.pl?action_id=144

For more information on the damages of genetically engineered foods read:

Genetically Engineered Food Threatens Indigenous People
http://mercola.com/.../feb/23/ge_food2.htm

This is already way out of control as almost all of the food we now are eating is already harmful to our health. Check food labels to see how soy is in most foods. Our beef are being grain-fed which destroys the nutritional value. Help is needed to protect this from going any further for the sake of current and future generations.

Even those starving in Africa refuse to accept GMO food. Many european countries will not accept GMO food or crops, but the US is allowing these industries to poison us slowly!

Perhaps the AIDS bioengineering wasn't enough to help kill us off or create enough health illnesses.

AIDS Bioengineering On Trial http://boydgraves.com/

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almost all of the food we now are eating is already harmful to our health.
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According to British research there has been no evidence to prove that GM/GE foods damage health.

Yes, and Aliter Campbell is busy trying to convince us that going to war with Iraq is actually a good idea, too.

Go figure ...

- wil

thats what they said about beef and bse, I dont trust `em further than I could throw `em, its all about money, getting elected, and greedy farmers.

However I do beleive Genetic Engineering is a good thing and hey its been going on since the beggining of time, its called Darwinism, a lot of the scare mongering is from the usual I dont want nothing new brigade, until they`ve got cancer, alzheimers or some other horrible disease.

But GM crops, well I just dont know, like I said when moneys involved you gotta watch out.

just my two pence worth.

chmod

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its all about money, getting elected, and greedy farmers.
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Which of course has nothing to do with the national academy of sciences as they are independent.

Who do we contact to protest against Greenpeace spreading such malicious lies?

IMHO, we should prosecute Greenpeace and other organization that spread this non-science for every starvation death in Africa where they refused food aid.

The withholding of food from the rivals of President Mugabe has been pretty well documented by the major media and various NGO's. In the past day or so, he has made the decision to allow the importation of GMO food due to world pressure, notably the UK. Unfortunately the decision to distribute food only to his political supporters remains in effect.

Why isn't Greenpeace concerned about the creation of an artificial famine and the use of food as a weapon to maintain power?
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There is great concern, but so much is covered up for the sake of industry. There is much research and scientific evidence supporting what GM food will do to both our environment and the creation of my illnesses.

An interesting article that shows who is behind all this is:

Poison for Profit - What A Business Plan!
http://creativehealth.netfirms.com/poison_p.shtml

- This circle of profit is not conspiracy theory, but an easily provable fact, the links are here and you can check them out for yourself.

The huge transnational companies that produce toxic chemicals found in pesticides, herbicides and industrial and household products profit not only from the sale of these products, but also from the symptoms and chronic illnesses that they can trigger.

The same chemical companies that produce toxic chemicals also produce prescription drugs, veterinary medicines, a wide array of medical products and imaging technologies, hold cancer treatment and medical device patents, and a produce a staggering assortment of over-the-counter palliatives.

These are also the same companies that are promoting GM food. Monsanto is the biggest company behind all this and stands to benefit the most.

It's not only Greenpeace that is fighting this, but they are making great strides in informing the public and getting people involved at the level of grocery stores, etc. Many stores are increasing their available organic foods.

Whether you are for or against GM foods, it's important I think to give people a choice. Just like I can refuse drugs pushed on me by doctors, I want a choice to know what foods I am eating and have a choice of whether I want to assume the risks.

It all about having a choice and being told the truth!

And since most research is paid for by those responsible for our current drugs, food, etc. is backed by the industry that produces them, they of course leave out all the harmful effects.

Visit creativehealth and read the various articles related to GM food, and learn the truth!

http://creativehealth.netfirms.com

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genetically enginered food sounds really scary. It's bad enough that our air, water and soil is polluted and having "possible" genetical problems too is just plan scary.

Darwinism took time while genetic alteration is not just breeding 2 good strains together. There has to be some sense in letting nature choose it's own dna setup.

GM food in 50 or so years might be good but GM seems to be lacking still.


hmmm, didn't the tobacco industry try to cover up the health risks of smoking?

Come on, the world lives on a good profit from sales.

Although, that I think GM will "probably" in the future be useful. Today, I'll stick with the simpler poisoned foods.

My vote goes with Lois.

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openoffice + gimp + sketch ...

My vote goes with no-one until it is proven _properly_ either way.

"...it sounds really scary?" Yeah that's really solid argument.

Never let the facts (or science) get in the way of a whacky conspiracy.

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Yeah that's really solid argument.
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Don't get confused between the basis of an argument and personal feelings

I did try to use quotes to show that I was speaking in a round about way also intending my lack of knowledge on this topic.

I do know that people live longer in Japan basically since they eat essentially "clean" food. Though I'm sure chemicals are used but still how many 115 year olds have you met? Me none, but this lady on tv is still gumming away.

hmm, Paul you got a point there but what do you do in the mean time while somebody is proving either way?


Oh well, we're all gonna die some day and some of us will die sooner.

peace and good food to all

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openoffice + gimp + sketch ...

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hmm, Paul you got a point there but what do you do in the mean time while somebody is proving either way?
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Keep shtum.

Really though, I'd prefer to easy really tasty food like bacon, sausages, burgers.....and live to be 60 rather than eat salads and lentils and live to be 90.

Japan does have an excellent average life span, right about 80 yrs I believe. The developed countries of the world all have pretty good ranges, mid 70s.

What are the goals of genetically engineered food crops and what are the benefits to world populations?

Crops that are healthier. Crops that yield more product per acre. Crops that are drought and pest resistant.

What do these advances mean? You can produce more food on less acreage. You need less pesticides. You can grow primary food crops in areas where other crops haven't succeeded. You can use less water. You can feed more people.

I think too often arguments against genetic engineering are cloaks for anti-corporation or anti-capitalism arguments. Especially when fear of the "unknown" is one of the mechanisms certain groups attempt to exploit to further their argument.

Don't get me wrong. The benefiots of GM food is just like you said. A hell of a lot.

But, I'd also like to see full testing, I hate to start reading in 10 years about how GM has messed with human dna.

hmmm, this is going to be a big topic, GM food, Clones for the rest of this century I bet.

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openoffice + gimp + sketch ...

If anything is going to mutate your DNA, it will be the toxic chemicals used in the construction of your computer.

There will be no mutation resulting from the consumption of your food...unless you put too much plutonium in with your salt

-Scott

going blind more like it, between the porn and staring at the screen too long

ahh, that's right. Even Cool-Aid is dangerous if you drink 1,000 liters of it a day

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openoffice + gimp + sketch ...

Actually drinking too much water a day is dangerous.

Unless it's from an Artesion well.

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openoffice + gimp + sketch ...

Ah, well if you must look at porn on the computer - just get a bigger screen!

But I would suggest a better alternative would be to obtain a member of the gender that appeals to you most. That's what they call a renewable resource!

Then you could conduct your own genetic experiments. HA! Oh I crack myself up.

missed the old conotation of porn I think. I've heard stories if you participate by yourself too much you'll go blind, get hairy palms and what not. But by now I'm sure most men know that this is all legends

I would if my wife was in a better mood


Seriously, though, wife is recooperating in the hospital after giving birth to our baby girl

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openoffice + gimp + sketch ...

Congratulations are in order then.

quote:

You need less pesticides.

Apparently you didn't read the articles to become better informed. The GM crops have built in pesticides and in themselves are resistant to pests. But as we all known insects adjust to the use of pesticides and become harmful themselves due to spreading disease.

Have you read the truth about the West Nile Virus? The cause was due to the spraying of pesticides and is now out of control. Mad Cow disease in Europe was also the result of pesticides being sprayed.

I read a very interesting article about Cuba and how they have proven by their methods of organic farming how it's much more beneficial to the economics, land, environment, and health of citizens to not use pesticides.

I'll never forget when I lived in an area where they grew cherries. While building out cabin we got swarmed with thousands of lady bugs that attacked and stung us. Why? Due to all the chemicals sprayed in the area to protect from insects to the cherries. They became dangerous and spread the pesiticides to all the humans they attacked.

Just look at the advantages for example of dairy farms and how their current systems are harmful to people and the environment.

Dairy Production on Grazing Land - Farmer Advantages - http://mercola.com/beef/farmer_advantages.htm

Please provide where you are getting your information to support the benefits of GE food. It would be interesting to know if it is industry based.

44 Claim Illness Was Caused by Biotech Corn in Food
http://mercola.com/2000/dec/10/gm_corn.htm

Also be aware they are planning to use GE food to vaccinate people. Do you want to risk being altered through the food you eat? Vaccinations alone are harmful enough but we still have a choice if we are aware. How many people do you know with Autism .. and do you realize one of the major causes is vaccinations.

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I looked over your politically based propaganda and discounted it.

I'll stick with science and common sense, thank you....but good luck with your campaign.

Hopefully too many people won't be fooled by it.