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Jan 31, 2002, 2:41 AM
Paul
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Favo(u)r please!
I'm having trouble seeing one of my domains whilst other people can and I was hoping to have a few people from different countries to test it out.

I've had someone in the US and Japan try it out and they see the correct page, yet I see the old site.

The dns changes were made using my own dns server which updates immediately so propogation may not be the issue.

http://www.wiredon.net

...if you see a cheesy joke you are at the right page!

Thanks for your help!
Jan 31, 2002, 2:51 AM
yogi
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Jan 31, 2002, 2:51 AM
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Holland sees a joke!
Jan 31, 2002, 2:53 AM
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Jan 31, 2002, 2:53 AM
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It looks like your secondary NS (NS2.DESKSQL.COM 207.230.62.136) isn't running properly.

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Jan 31, 2002, 2:57 AM
Paul
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Jan 31, 2002, 2:57 AM
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Thanks.....but doh!

I don't get why it isn't updating for me....it's been 24hrs :(
Jan 31, 2002, 2:57 AM
Paul
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I just created test.wiredon.net and I see that ok.

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Jan 31, 2002, 3:04 AM
Paul
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Jan 31, 2002, 3:04 AM
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Hmm it seems to be active:

[root@paul /root]# host ns2.desksql.com
ns2.desksql.com. has address 207.230.62.136

[root@paul /root]# dig +trace ns2.desksql.com
ns2.desksql.com. 172800 IN A 207.230.62.136
desksql.com. 172800 IN NS NS1.desksql.com.
desksql.com. 172800 IN NS ns2.desksql.com.
;; Received 113 bytes from 192.5.6.30#53(A.GTLD-SERVERS.NET) in 20 ms


What problem did you see?
Jan 31, 2002, 4:43 AM
Paul
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Jan 31, 2002, 4:43 AM
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Ok I have to admit I don't know what I did but I've just had a major investigation in the dns files and now it seems to be working and I see the correct page Angelic
Jan 31, 2002, 6:28 AM
Michael_Bray
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Jan 31, 2002, 6:28 AM
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What was the cheesy joke? I just get the normal page now Shocked
Cheers,
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Jan 31, 2002, 6:32 AM
Paul
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Jan 31, 2002, 6:32 AM
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Well if you are a perfectionist like me then I guess you could consider the "normal page" to be a cheesy joke too :)

Ugh it needs a makeover.
Feb 4, 2002, 1:28 AM
Wil
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Feb 4, 2002, 1:28 AM
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Code:
bash# dig sqldesk.com MX

; <<>> DiG 2.1 <<>> sqldesk.com MX
;; res options: init recurs defnam dnsrch
;; got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 6
;; flags: qr aa rd ra; Ques: 1, Ans: 0, Auth: 1, Addit: 0
;; QUESTIONS:
;; sqldesk.com, type = MX, class = IN

;; AUTHORITY RECORDS:
sqldesk.com. 86400 SOA dns35.register.com. root.register.com. (
200102272 ; serial
10800 ; refresh (3 hours)
3600 ; retry (1 hour)
604800 ; expire (7 days)
86400 ) ; minimum (1 day)

;; Total query time: 119 msec
;; FROM: pcbich.ott.aber.ac.uk to SERVER: default -- 144.124.16.11
;; WHEN: Mon Feb 4 11:20:55 2002
;; MSG SIZE sent: 29 rcvd: 85

:-)

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Feb 4, 2002, 2:19 AM
Paul
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Feb 4, 2002, 2:19 AM
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Shame thats the wrong URL....desksql

Code:
[root@paul /root]# dig desksql.com MX

; <<>> DiG 9.1.0 <<>> desksql.com MX
;; global options: printcmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 23225
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 1, ADDITIONAL: 1

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;desksql.com. IN MX

;; ANSWER SECTION:
desksql.com. 86400 IN MX 10 mail.desksql.com.

;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
desksql.com. 86400 IN NS ns.desksql.com.

;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
ns.desksql.com. 86400 IN A 207.230.62.135

;; Query time: 35 msec
;; SERVER: 207.230.62.2#53(207.230.62.2)
;; WHEN: Mon Feb 4 18:26:56 2002
;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 83

[root@paul /root]#

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Feb 4, 2002, 2:42 AM
Wil
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Feb 4, 2002, 2:42 AM
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Ah. Did you know that there was a sqldesk.com out there? Ugh, that could be ugly. Or did you register that one too? Here's your info.

Code:
bash# dig @desksql.com MX

; <<>> DiG 2.1 <<>> @desksql.com MX
; (1 server found)
;; res options: init recurs defnam dnsrch
;; got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 10
;; flags: qr rd ra; Ques: 1, Ans: 0, Auth: 1, Addit: 0
;; QUESTIONS:
;; ., type = MX, class = IN

;; AUTHORITY RECORDS:
. 10800 SOA A.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. nstld.verisign-grs.com. (
2002020301 ; serial
1800 ; refresh (30 mins)
900 ; retry (15 mins)
604800 ; expire (7 days)
86400 ) ; minimum (1 day)

;; Total query time: 165 msec
;; FROM: pcbich.ott.aber.ac.uk to SERVER: desksql.com 207.230.62.135
;; WHEN: Mon Feb 4 12:36:19 2002
;; MSG SIZE sent: 17 rcvd: 92

bash#

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Feb 4, 2002, 2:45 AM
Paul
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Feb 4, 2002, 2:45 AM
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>>Here's your info. <<

Err thanks....was that just incase I didn't know my own info?
Feb 4, 2002, 2:47 AM
Paul
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Ohh nice and secure Wil....

http://pcbich.ott.aber.ac.uk/
Feb 4, 2002, 3:25 AM
Paul
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Infact you might want to secure that up pretty quick as your username/password are easily accessible via the web.

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Feb 4, 2002, 3:32 AM
Wil
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Feb 4, 2002, 3:32 AM
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Feb 4, 2002, 3:40 AM
Paul
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Guess you have lots to learn.
Feb 4, 2002, 3:41 AM
Wil
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Feb 4, 2002, 3:41 AM
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Um. You do know that running password cracking software is illegal? I have every right to inform the authorities of a breaking attempt on my system, and I have all the logs needs to prove it. Marvellous. I'm sure JANET administrators will love to hear about this. Thanks, Paul. You've just made my day.

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Feb 4, 2002, 3:46 AM
Paul
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>>You do know that running password cracking software is illegal? <<

Yeah I do but who mentioned software?.......all I had to do was go into your cgi-bin and find your passwd file as all directories gave a listing.

....and then I informed you to secure it up, so infact I did you a favor.

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Feb 4, 2002, 3:53 AM
Wil
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Aha. I see where you got my password from. My fault for using the same password for the intranet login web panel as my password for the system. That's now changed.

I could still get you charged for that, though. Hm, I'll stew on the idea over lunch. ;-)

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Feb 4, 2002, 4:03 AM
Paul
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My knees are quaking.

Theres nothing to charge me on....you left all your login information in public view, and I checked that is was a security risk (which it was) and informed you.

Would you have preferred me to find all your password information (available to anyone who happened to pass by your site) and then keep it a secret?....i don't think so.
Feb 4, 2002, 5:36 AM
Wil
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Feb 4, 2002, 5:36 AM
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No. That's a dev server, there was an unencrypted password file there containing one password that was used to access a web portal that I was testing. Unfortunately, I used the same password for my login information for that machine - you had guessed this and used this information to break into the machine. Which is illegal.

However, the food in Witherspoons was good, so I'll let you off the hook. ;-)

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Feb 4, 2002, 6:30 AM
Paul
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>>and used this information to break into the machine. Which is illegal. <<

Using an accessible username/password to test whether I can login is not quite the same a breaking in with intent.

Anyway, whatever, Im going to finish my new WiredON design...

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Feb 4, 2002, 6:37 AM
Wil
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Yes it is illegal as you were not authorised to access the system.

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Feb 4, 2002, 7:29 AM
Paul
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I didn't intend to access the system. I was verifying whether the username/password being viewable was a security risk and if so, warn you about it, which is what I did.

I shouldn't have bothered telling you about it and let you get properly hacked.

Thats appreciation for ya.

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