Thanks. Actually I changed the links new,ratings and cool after I couldn't get it to work right and was just fiddling trying to figure why. Guess I forgot to change one back. Regardless the others weren't working either way and now are. I can swear that I reloaded the page and cleared the cache etc so I don't know why. The main thing is it works now. I do wonder if NT is to blame since I see 'stefanm' asked a similar question about these same three links and is also using an NT server. Can it be that NT may either cache some setting or variable or something else? Maybe some settings that the script use are updated once a day or something? Or maybe some session variables are saved for some reason? Anyway, its for smarter minds than mine. If anyone else has a problem with this and NT they may want to see if it fixes itself when the server is restarted assuming all their other settings are correct.