from what I can see in the db users_join_time IS set to not null (and I'm pretty certain I didn't change that), but it's not even getting to the insert because in Join.pm in sub check_user it's looking for required fields in the db.users table, of which users_join_time is one of them... and the time doesn't get set until you get to the User.pm file (I believe). I know this worked before because I did add a couple of test accounts, so I'm guessing I broke something, I just can't seem to figure out where.