want to know what are these languages mainly used for?

fortran
cobol
basic
simula67
pascal
C language
ada
C++
perl
visual basic
java
php



so i can decide which one to learn?

thanks

If I tell you will you answer a question of a similar difficulty?

Why is the sky blue?

What do you want to learn?

I'd go Java as supposed to C++ to learn about object orientated programming. I'd also hint at Ruby or Perl6 too, but Java is probably the way to go here.

baisc is basic. Enjoy laughing at it in your spare time. You'd be lucky to program anything expect your toaster with this.

fortran! excellent. haha. sorry, move on from this one, and cobol too.

visual basic is handy for creating simple windows applications. and as it's a visual programming language, it's pretty easy to pick up.

php is handy if you want to create websites that access databases and such, and doesnt take too long to learn.

The ultimate question I think is, what do you want to do? What are you trying to achieve?

- wil

Java over C++? Are you pulling my plonker?

Like you said, it depends on that theguy wants to do but its got to be out of C/C++/perl/Php(/vb/java)

I'd definitly learn Java over C++ if I wanted to learn an OO language.

Then again, I'd prefer to learn Ruby or mess around with parrot / perl 6.

PHP? What good is that as a programming language? That won't teach you much. To me, PHP is just an extension to HTML. Hardly qualifies as a programming language, imo.

- wil

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PHP? What good is that as a programming language? That won't teach you much. To me, PHP is just an extension to HTML. Hardly qualifies as a programming language, imo.
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If I preferred php to perl I wouldn't be hanging around at GT but it is still a valid option depending on what theguy's intentions are and it _is_ a programming language (unfortunately). I'd call it a bad clone of perl rather than an extension of html

some older languages in there you don't want to bother with. If it is just for interest, and pursuance of knowledge learn any of them.

If you want to make web applications, go for Perl or C++. I have started learning Perl myself, and I am enjoying it.

Visual Basic won't take you long to pick up if you have programmed before, and its good for making apps which run on people's pc. Pascal is not as difficult as C++ but is a nice language for apps also, though I am not sure how much it is used anymore.

Learn java if you are making web pages.

Simula67??


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Learn java if you are making web pages.
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You aren't confusing javascript with java are you?....java is like those ugly applets that take light years to load

Yeah I was.

Forget java... learn javascript. I have a nice book on writing java (not script) in front of me here... I have skimmed that chapters a couple of times, and too me it looks like stuff you can do in other languages, but I have not read enough of it to get interested in it or really understand what its about yet.

I like the icon for java with the little coffee cup though. Nice logo :)

Java is excellent if you want to learn the principles of OO programming, though.

- wil

Its scary :)


Java exception errors annoy me as much as 500's

Learn java at the same time WebObjects.
Check out Apple's site and forums to see what you can do with it.
It has made using java a lot easier.

I prefer perl but php isn't that bad. I can't program but php is nothing really to laugh at.

hmmm, I'm trying to learn perl then I'm gonna move on to WebObjects. Hey, It's now on my desktop

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Fortran and onwards to the fortran 90 is a language suited to mathematics.

Scientific and engineering math.

-- Many types of bridges are only possible today due to computers and fortran.

Cobol is a lauguage for business use on mainframes [ a famous Navy officer wrote it ? ]

Basic is a very simple language but still useful as you can compile basic into a very small

standalone exe , I still have a basic compiler from Borland. TurboBasic ver 1.0

Pascal [ French Variables only allowed ] and Borlands Delphi $$$ - can be used in place C or C++ is used.

C and C++ lang are used to fly to the moon and back without paying royalties.

Perl is only for web rubbish and everything else worth coding.

Visual Basic is MS basic , groovy graphical and you have to have a Ford to move the

runtime libraries.

Java is for coffee shops , especially online coffee shops. Sun Java & MS Java ?

Php is another web rubbish language, not to be confused with Perl.

Simula67 is probably a cousin of Algol60 and Ada is for Disneyland only.

All languages compile with errors due to the keyboard operator.

Thanks

Kode (-:

Hmm if something is worth coding then it can't be web rubbish surely?

Dear Paul, It was just a quickie 2 brain cell thought.

Perl with all the modules and it's wide spread usage is not limited.

How would you sum up what perl can or can not do in few words ?

Would you use perl for programming for NASA space shuttles ?

Have you ever read the warning's for Java usage ? Do these apply to Perl also ?

Half way to Mars -- you get a 500 error , what do you do ?

I suppose I should have said Perl is " The Swiss Army Chainsaw " .

But one mans rubbish is another mans gold.

Thanks

Kode

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How would you sum up what perl can or can not do in few words ?
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It does almost everything.

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Would you use perl for programming for NASA space shuttles ?
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Who knows.

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Have you ever read the warning's for Java usage ? Do these apply to Perl also ?
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Nope I haven't read them.

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Half way to Mars -- you get a 500 error , what do you do ?
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No idea what you mean, but first thing is RTFM ;)

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I suppose I should have said Perl is " The Swiss Army Chainsaw " .
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Why?

Here are some more for the fray http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/intercal/, and http://www.gossamer-threads.com/...orum.cgi?post=198950

No comments on their practical value, however.

Wil's right, the first question is what you want to do.

All languages have their place, I think, a couple of possibly surprising examples.

Basic:http://www.gossamer-threads.com/perl/gforum/gforum.cgi?post=198950[/ur], I love these things, played with them in high school, hook em up to a couple of devices, and code away. It's a high enough level language that people can learn it quickly - yet low enough to convert to machine code efficiently. So it's great if you want to work with microcontrolers (Forth is also popular in this market)

Fortran I hear, handles math extremely well. It was used in the scientific community, (like APL and maybe ADA), and people spent a lot of their time making sure that the core math functions worked extremely well and as a result, better number handling than mainstream languages.

Something I always wanted to know....what language are video games like Mario Bros. coded in?

Depends on the system.

For the early consoles, atari 2600 type, maybe even nintendo, probably a range of assembler to C with lots of assembler. But most of the new stuff is probably in C/C++. If you're curious about a particular platform, like xBox or Playstation (I'll betcha it's C++) some of us in the office know some game coders and we might be able to ask them specifics

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I'll betcha it's C++
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Its gotta be Visual C++ for XBox

Don't go out of your way to ask them but I'd be interested to know if you find out.

Ah that Super Mario Bros music is still classic.

http://members.rogers.com/...s/MarioBrosTheme.mid

Ah found this:

http://gpp.netfirms.com/...index.cgi?sourcecode

Dear Paul, I apologise for using the perl language or the Perl compiler in any

attempt of humor.

I will not do so again.

But also don't expect me to think and have fun for all.

Thanks

Kode

That theme music is great Paul.



It gave me flashbacks. LOL

I do believe that Cobol was written by a female officer in the Navy.
Cobol is still very popular in Japan, many of my students study it.


Fortran, woo, I haven't seen that language since my first year of college. I never did like the formatting of it. Just too strict.

perl/php ... hehe, I know what you all mean.

cheers

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Visual Basic is also used in Active Server Pages (ASP) programming. If you're interested in becoming an ASP developer or .NET developer, which are really "hot" these days. learning VB would be beneficial.

Personally, I think that the more languages you learn, the more marketable you'll be. A friend of mine knows a co-worker who is fluent in about 20 different programming languages, like Phython, C++, Java, Perl, etc. He is highly marketable and gets paid well for his skills.
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Dear Paul, I apologise for using the perl language or the Perl compiler in any

attempt of humor.

I will not do so again.

But also don't expect me to think and have fun for all.
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I have no idea what you are talking about, you lost me way back with all this talk of flying to mars .....I don't have any personal problem if you don't like perl, all I was asking for was an explanation of what you meant

>>>If I preferred php to perl I wouldn't be hanging around at GT but it is still a valid option depending on what theguy's intentions are and it _is_ a programming language (unfortunately). I'd call it a bad clone of perl rather than an extension of html <<<

Erm, I prefer PHP, but I still hang around here What about LSQl's new PHP frontend? Thats PHP...so its not much good if one a handful of GT staff know how to modify and write extras for this is it ;) Just my opinion :P

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What about LSQl's new PHP frontend? Thats PHP...so its not much good if one a handful of GT staff know how to modify and write extras for this is it ;)
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What does that have to do with the price of fish?

You were saying that is people prefered PHP to Perl, then they wouldn't be here! Well, I prefer PHP, and I'm still here! What I was trying to say is that it needs PHP developers, as well as Perl ones around GT, as we have PHP and Perl questions! Now we have the PHP frontend of LSQL, PHP is needed in this area too! So really, you saying that people who prefer PHP wouldn't be here, was unfounded!

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Nice analysis but I did infact say:

If I preferred php over perl I wouldn't be here

Fair enough

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