On Who's Online page would be fine to have displayed My time zone & User time zone, too.

Let's imagine I set my Time Offset (in hours): +9 in EDIT PROFILE.

This means that all User times will be displayed in my local time.
However sometimes would be fine to see what is the time at a user.
So would be fine to have displayed on the Who's Online page both My time zone & other user's time zone, too.

Example:

The time between the parentheses shows the local time of the users (based on what they set in their PROFILE). I hope you will like the idea and will implement it.

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Hi,

I've made changes in 1.1.5 so that you can add a user's time by adding the following to whos_online.html:

<%if user_localdate%> (<%user_localdate%>)<%endif%>

That would display the full date (ie. "May 15, 2002, 1:53 PM"). If you didn't want the full date and time, you could do this instead:

<%if user_localdate%> (<%GT::Date::date_get($user_localtime, '%h%:%MM% %tt%')%>)<%endif%>

I'm not completely sure yet whether or not we'll add this to the default 1.1.5 template.

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Thanks Jagerman, you are quite fast again! Great!

Personally I will use this feature, but I don't know if others would need it too.
My opinion is, that it is useful, and would be fine to put into the template by default, so the users can see there is such feature. If somebody does not like it, he can remove it easily.
Removing something is always easier, than to add something new. So add it.

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definitely a nice addition since vB has it as a hack/regular distro option.

Besides, not every one lives in the same time zone.

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It's been added to the default templates for 1.1.5.

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Jason,

at the moment, I only see double time-zones for yoga (me...) in who's online. Is that because I am the only one who has configured a time-zone, or is this a bug?

Ivan
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Yeah, it wasn't quite right. Take a look now; it should be working but should NOT show for you, or anyone else with the same time offset as you.

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Jason Rhinelander
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I see the same time in ( ) for everyone.

That means no one in the Who's Online list has a time_offset set in their profile.

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Jason Rhinelander
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So is it showing the servers localtime?

I see 4pm

Yup.

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Hmm could it not be removed if there is no offset...it is a little redundant otherwise?....I dont need to be told what the server localtime is 20 odd times

hmmm 2 ideas :::

1.) start with time being GMT .... that way it's easier to base your own time zone ... rather than having to figure out where that perso's server is located.

2.) instead of a textbox to enter (+9) ... have a drop down of all the worlds major time zones.

I have +9 set but online shows 02:49 while my real time is 09:49, everybody else has 17:49 .... hmmmm

What is online time supposed to show? server time or each user's local time? I'm getting confused on this ... lol ... I'm always confused though.

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The time offset is the difference from the server time. So, if the servers timezone is +3, and I am -7, I would set -10 for my time offset.

Dealing with timezones is a real pain - different timezones change to DST at different times, some don't change, etc. Handling all that would be a real mess.

If your real time is 9:49, and everyone else is 17:49, you should really be about +16.

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Yep, I agree with Paul.

Ideas collection:
1) Display server local time at the top of the Online Users table.
2) The currently used 6:56 AM (9:58 PM) format is fine for me. But if server is displayed at the top, the "6:56 AM ( Timezone not set )" info would be fine.
3) Yes, using GMT would be better and listing most time zones in downdrop list would be also fine

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hehe ... I'm horrible at math!

which is why I mentioned that instead of localtime that gmt should be used.

Also, figuring out where a server is a real pain requiring asking the admin/moderator or using some kind of time zone chart.

Totally agreeable that time zones and DST are a pain especially if you live in a non-DST time zone.

But hashing this out here is probably better than each individual g-forum site user having to deal with it later.

Sorry, about creating the extra coding hassle but still worth considering a straight out of the box solution.

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Actually, I don't like this feature. It made me turn off "Visible in Who's Online".

Ivan
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Why? Why is irritating you, if somebody knows you Time Zone?
Moreover, if you don't set the Time Offset in your Display Profile, no extra info will be displayed about you Time Zone.

But go hidden, or invisible, or whatever you want, it is your decision...
I never understood, why would somebody hide himself & his public existence from the public (except his e-mail or personal data).
Personally, displaying my Time Zone and my existence on the forum is not irritating me.

EDIT: "Never say, NEVER, so I say, CURRENTLY"

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displaying my Time Zone and my existence on the forum is not irritating me.
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Not everyone thinks like you, you know. There are 12,000 other people to consider.

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Moreover, if you don't set the Time Offset in your Display Profile, no extra info will be displayed about you Time Zone.
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Why should he have to lose his timezone setting to hide himself?

You are saying exactly what I was just going to write....

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Paul, please don't change meaning of my words!
I wrote this, related to the statement Yogi wrote, => that he goes invisible, because the time zone is displayed now on the Online users page.


Yogi wrote, he made him "turn off 'Visible in Who's Online' ", because the time zone is displayed near his name on the Online users page.

I just wrote, he does not need to go invisible, if he wants not to display his time zone.

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I want to use my timezone, but I don't want others to know. The only option I have is to become Invisible.

Ivan
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Ok, I understand.

But why is so disturbing to display the time zone? This would help others to know when to search you, if somebody e.g. want to ask a bit help.

Of course, I accept if you want this, just wondering why is disturbing.

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Basically, I was thinking of going invisible before. This change just triggered it....

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Paul, please don't change meaning of my words!
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I don't understand how I've changed the meaning of your words. All Im saying is that just because you like the feature, doesn't mean everyone else does....and the people that don't like it should not be forced to lose out by altering their profile or personal settings.

I just get the impression that you think everyone should go along with your ideas and when someone has a difference of opinion you imply that they are wrong for not agreeing with you.....just my 2 cents, maybe Im reading too much into your replies :)

Paul, as always, I wrote down my opinion. As you do, too.

Yogi told he "was thinking of going invisible before".
Does it makes sense to you?

Flame ON:
It seems you are always arguing with the personal opinion of others, especially with me. Why I feel this again? We talked already about...
Many times, you do not use constructive criticism, you are just arguing with me for some reasons... I would have ideas, but forget it... (Before anybody will yield me, I greatly respect you, and your participation here in the forum, but your argues sometimes are exaggerated). I would be glad, if we would discuss about the features, suggestions, ideas, problems or LSQL, but not about each others. It belongs to the Chit-Chat forum...
Flame OFF:

If a couple of users would like a feature, and a couple of others not, then if developers decide, both could get his way to get their options.
Knowing the Time Zone of others is normal in real world contacts, so would be in the forum, too.
Yes, this may irritate some people, so they may get their options from developers to be able to turn it out, if the developers decide.
Also it is the decision of developers which one should be the default one...

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I would be glad, if we would discuss about the features, suggestions, ideas, problems or LSQL, but not about each others. It belongs to the Chit-Chat forum...
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Yes but thats the point I was just making....I just happen to disagree with your opinion on certain issues (as I think does Yogi on this occasion) but you are taking it as a personal attack....its not, honestly, I just don't agree with everything you say.

Any reply I have made to you has been backed up with evidence of why I don't agree, I don't disagree for the sake of it, I want to stand up for myself and perhaps have some features implemented that I want and not be a lurker and have to put up with the features that other people decide for me.

Maybe you have a lot free time, I don't have time for argues... In future I will reply only, if there will be strictly related about the subject. Flame OFF.

>>Maybe you have a lot free time, I don't have time for argues...<<

Grrr Im not arguing, Im disagreeing with your suggestions and comments in relation to Yogi's post.....which _IS_ related to the subject in hand.

What do you want me to do?...just agree with everything you say even if really I disagree?....

I have as much right to reject an idea as you do to suggest one.

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ok ....

:teacher rant:
let's shake hands now
:end teacher rant:

Interesting that a time zone could be so heated.
Oh well, each person has their own opinions and ideas.



Lot's of good ideas, now let's take that energy and just focus it for a moment for the betterment of GT

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Do you teach yoga by an chance?

Are you talking to me?

Ivan
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No sorry, I forgot you were a yoga person too....I was just being sarcastic because he's so calm all the time

Somebody has to stay calm when you guys start fighting all the time!

Ivan
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Im going to cry now because Im not arguing

I won't argue about that, then.

Ivan
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That'll teach me to defend you ...it's all your fault!!

No it isn't.

Ivan
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And just to add to this thread... In your user profile instead of just saying "Time:" maybe it should state "Local Time:" just to clarify this matter.

Cheers

- wil