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WOW! Thats allot of money. Not upgrading for a while on my site then. Alex how much would it cost if you take out the installation charges?

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Yup, I agree with you. We are waiting for a long time for this SQL version and it seems cost too much than we expect before.

Besides the hosting service is also so expensive even it include a free Link SQL.

Kim
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Well guyz,

what can I say? I have to work 2 months to buy SQL Links..

However, I don't need at this time.
My links may never exceed 10k.


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On the contrary, I don't feel that the cost that Alex is asking is to much at all! If you have a site that is big enough to need the SQL version, then you should also be getting alot of traffic, which then converts to alot of advertising revenue. Besides, that includes setup! Considering the amount of time Alex devotes to answering questions on this forum, can you imagine what a mess it would be without him setting it up for people?

I personally am just beginning to understand Links 2.0 and would like to thank Alex for a great product at a great price. If and when I come to the point of needing his SQL version, I will gladly pay the price.

To borrow from an old quote, "You gotta spend at least a little money to make money."

Joe
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    Hi everyone!

Well, I've just got the news, and my first impression was also: "..HELLOOO???...ANYBODY HOME???.." But, you know, I have to agree, that developing a program of this type is a very serious task, not even mentioning the time Alex invests into helping out others.
Since I'm no programmer and even setting up Links2 was a grizzly task for me, I would under no circumstances try to go setting up a program of this type by myself. So, if the setup is included in the price, and if the program is as good as I think it is, and if I could afford it, I would, without hesitation buy it right away!
Of course, I belong to the second group, consisting of those who don't have the strong financial background to buy all the best goodies out there. Not yet anyway. I have lot's of great ideas, work very hard and keep fighting against all the odds to reach success in "cyber world," like so many others, like so many of you, but now I feel a little bit of a loss. It's like, here we go again, only the guys with the big bucks will have the chance for success. So, my left eye is smiling knowing what I could have, but the right is sad, because I can't have it.
Of course, there are many things to consider before drawing any conclusion, which I don't intend to do and recommend everyone to avoid doing too early and too fast, but one thing is for sure; Comparing this product with other huge software packages available on the market these days, the decision of buying it won't be that easy as it is with Links2.
Well, good luck to you all! I'll go, and keep searching for similar programs on the Net and hope to find something that's closer, much-much closer to my budget.

Regards: COOL
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Exactly what are the benefits from an SQL version when have a large database site? Faster seaches? What else?
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Can handle more links. Alex is putting together a mirror of the OPD, which has 600,000 links and 80,000 categories. Alex, I hope you have allot of space on your server cause your gonna need it 400MB - 600MB. joecarey, as a student I have very little money to put into this. Im runnig off of a subdomain will buy a domain once I get the Ad revnues for it, I need 150 - 200 clicks/month just to pay for the hosting (im on a free host now). Alex, is there also a student discount?

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Looks like im gonna have to go with Catalog. http://www.senga.org/

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Jimz,

Can you share with us on how you display "Headline News" on your Links home page using isyndicate.com?

Look forward to your reply.

Bill
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Its all in the talent of CGI programming.

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Jimz is right, it's way too expensive for small people like me.

You said, "Its all in the talent of CGI programming". So, would you mind telling us how you did it?

Bill


[This message has been edited by billtheman (edited June 08, 1999).]
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Is there a difference between the older Links SQL version with the latest release? It appears that the new one only will work on MySQL. Alex did mentioned that the new SQL release will support ALL SQL servers a couple of months back, but that's not the case with today's release.

Don't know if it's really worth buying or not.

Bill
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Bill,
Id have to be crazy to release the source code. Please contact me privatly so I can possibly help you.

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Exactly what are the benefits from an SQL version when have a large database site? Faster seaches? What else?

You get faster builds, faster searches, better admin response, etc.

The flatfile version of Links becomes unusable as the number of links increases. Every server has different limits, but generally once you reach between five to ten thousand links, the server either kills the CGI scripts, or the response time gets too slow. Links SQL addresses this by allowing your directory to grow to much higher volumes.

Again, that should be your only factor in deciding between Links 2 and Links SQL. If you run a small to medium size directory, stick with Links 2, there will be no noticeable advantadge to using Links SQL.

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Is there a difference between the older Links SQL version with the latest release?

Yes, the new one is a complete rewrite of the Links internals. The SQL Add on just added an sql search to the program, but all the links were still stored in a text file. Links SQL now works completely off of an SQL database, and does not use an text files.

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It appears that the new one only will work on MySQL. Alex did mentioned that the new SQL release will support ALL SQL servers a couple of months back, but that's not the case with today's release.

I was not able to support mSQL and still keep the program efficent as mSQL does not support a lot of key features. The program works very well with mysql, and will probably work well with other real database servers like Oracle, MS-SQL, etc, but they have to be tested. There shouldn't be much to change in order to get them to work, but I haven't had a chance yet. For the more technical of you, the program use DBI/DBI with almost all ANSI SQL calls, so it should work without change on other SQL servers.

I know the price may put it out of reach of some, but please realise that it is meant for large directories only. If your directory doesn't have > 10,000 links in it, then I would not recommend it to you.

If you have managed to put together such a large directory, then I think you have something really valuable to Internet visitors, and it shouldn't be too difficult to recoup your costs.

I'll be putting up some more information about it in the next week or two (dedicated forum, html page, sample, etc). In the meantime if you have any questions, don't hesitate to ask!

Cheers,

Alex
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As the directory grows and exceeds 5-7k links and when the time comes to upgrade to SQL, are the HTML output pages going to be identical? Is it still template driven?

I am also wondering about all the mods we have installed - I think will have to rewritten/installed?
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As the directory grows and exceeds 5-7k links and when the time comes to upgrade to SQL, are the HTML output pages going to be identical? Is it still template driven?

It's still template driven (or site_html.pl), and you can keep all the same html templates. Mods that affect things outside of the templates, site_html.pl, site_html_templates.pl and the .def files will have to be reintegrated. Depending on the mod it may be trivial, or it may not.

Cheers,

Alex
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Ok all,
I will answer all of your questions. First, to display the News, im using a allmost all reprogrammed copy of the script at http://imchat.com/fileboard/html/232.html . Ok. To display the pages from OPD (Open Directory Project) you have 3 options:
http://www.anaconda.net/ap_odpdemo.shtml ,
http://accessarts.net/...opendirectory2.shtml , and
http://grohol.com/downloads/ .

I hope this answers all of your questions.

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Vince,

How did you display Open Directory index on your Links pages?

Would you mind letting us know the mod that can do that trick?

Thanks!

Bill
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I am not sure If I'm right, but it seems that he just split the colum to 3 and using normal html tag for the description... And to split the colum to 3, the codes are floating around in this forum. You have to search for it.
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It's nice to incorporate ODP into Links but with that storage space

Sorry, I may have confused some people. I'm only putting the ODP into the demo of Links to use as an example of the number of links it can hold (which is still something to be seen, our test database only has 115,000 links). If people want the conversion script, they are welcome to it, but it's not an integrated part of Links.

Cheers,

Alex
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Alex,
It's nice to incorporate ODP into Links but with that storage space, not many people can affort it. An alternative is to capture the results and have it display on your site. There is no worry about disk space.

Example: http://www.PremierStores.com

Vince
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    How about ann free SQL add-on? This would be just for the searchs!!!
Do someone have the searchs based on mySQL or mSQL?
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Bill,
Woops, I always forget to send the attachment. It will be on the way. Do you still need the instructions?
Sorry!

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It's VERY obvious that he (jimz that is) won't disclose the actual script that pulls out isyndicate.com content for display on a Links page. It's a shame that people like him participate on this forum only to take but NOT give. He's been beating around the bush at me for the last two days and send me a BLANK email without the attachment script he promised. I guess he changed his mind about helping out and now he's telling us all to go figure. Sad but true!

Payback? Ok, if "jimz" or James Ribar ever ask for help on this forum, my suggestion to you all is to ignore him and give back the same medicine. He surely deserves it!

bill
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Forgive me for jumping in but...

Am I to understand that billtheman is pissed at Jimz because Jimz won't share something that has nothing to do with Links SQL (I believe that IS the title of this thread) or Links in general?

I believe that if you wish to share info on Links, then Jimz would (and does) gladly share and share alike.

Just my opinion,

Joe

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