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Suggestion: Kill File
Hi Alex

Any chance of implementing a kill file for these boards?? It would be most appreciated.

Rgds

- wil
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Re: [Wil] Suggestion: Kill File In reply to
Can you explain that a bit more? Do you mean like for newsgroups?

Cheers,

Alex
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Gossamer Threads Inc.
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Quick definition for those who don't know....(not referring to you Alex obviously).

http://www.tuxedo.org/...entry/kill-file.html

....http://www.tuxedo.org/...tml/entry/plonk.html Tongue

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PaulW: Dec 19, 2001, 1:18 PM
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On a slightly related topic Id like a way to be able to filter pm's so I can accept from some people and block others.
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Hi Alex

Well, more like a filter I was thinking. In a forum with high traffic, maybe it would be nice to set your custom filters as to what messages you see.

For instance if you're a developer and interested in developing high-levels of the GT scripts then maybe you'd want to kill all posts referencing the term "newbie".

Rgds

- wil
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Re: [Wil] Suggestion: Kill File In reply to
Good idea in theory, but in practice...virtually impossible.

N-eWbiE....

New_Bie---

---new_bie----

NeuBie-----

NewBee....
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Buh Bye!

Cheers,
Me

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Heckler: Dec 20, 2001, 9:40 AM
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Works great for Usenet....

- wil
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I don't believe that you could filter all the variations of string values within any type of electronic message, Will, including Usenet.

My point is that while you could "catch" common spellings of words to filter, it is not foul-proof, and I am unsure whether it would be the worth the effort to program and maintain.
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Buh Bye!

Cheers,
Me
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Re: [Heckler] Suggestion: Kill File In reply to
>>My point is that while you could "catch" common spellings of words to filter, it is not foul-proof, <<

Ah but you could filter out posts where users have a certain status...ie "New Member" or a certain username.

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RedRum: Dec 21, 2001, 8:35 AM
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That would make better sense than trying to filter based on string values in messages or subjects.
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Buh Bye!

Cheers,
Me
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Ah but you could filter out posts where users have a certain status...ie "New Member" or a certain username.


you might get a genius who has just registered, then you wouldn't be able to read their posts. catch 22.

R
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Hi

Well, sorry, but it works absolute wonders for me with Forte Agent and reading Usenet groups. I just kill any posts made by certain individuals or ones with keywords in the subject line. I also kill messages that have ALL CAPITAL LETTERS or similar.

The amount of traffic I read has gone down to about 70% and I only see the messages I am actually interested in.

Rgds

- wil
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Re: [Wil] Suggestion: Kill File In reply to
While you can filter common spellings and variations of words...it is not foul-proof in my opinon.

Like I already gave as an example:

New_Be
New_bie

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Buh Bye!

Cheers,
Me
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Like I already gave as an example:

New_Be
New_bie
<<

I doubt someone would make a post with strange spellings just to get around the filtering.

Also this would be irrelevant if filtering by username or status.

If wildcarding was added it would also be irrelevant.



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RedRum: Dec 22, 2001, 10:01 AM
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Wildcarding is very dangerous.

Example of Bad Word Filter:

Association
Jackass

Example of newbie/expert filter:

New Software
new copies

I assume that you are thinking of filtering based on new* or ass*. Not a good idea!

And about the userid/perm type of filtering, I think that the ryel01 brought up a good point...Just because someone has joined a forum doesn't mean that they are a "newbie" to programming or scripting.

Thus, I think that my arguments are NOT irrelevant, Paul.

Also, like heated discussions about this issue have arisen in the past, I think it would be counterproductive to separate users in public forums. Each set of users has a right to post questions and comments (like you have stated time and time again)...excluding someone based on lack of knowledge is not a very good idea.

In addition, just because someone has a "veteran" or "expert" status means nothing, since that person may not really be an expert, but only posts a lot of posts in the forum.


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Buh Bye!

Cheers,
Me

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Heckler: Dec 22, 2001, 10:21 AM
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I assume that you are thinking of filtering based on new* or ass*. Not a good idea!
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Well thats up to the person doing the filtering.

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I think it would be counterproductive to separate users in public forums. Each set of users has a right to post questions and comments (like you have stated time and time again)...excluding someone based on lack of knowledge is not a very good idea.
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Same again, its up the the person doing the filtering (who may not think like you). If they want to ignore someone they'll do it anyway....adding filtering just means they won't have to see the posts.

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Okay...I see what you mean...I think we are talking about the same thing but from different perspectives...I am thinking from the admin's viewpoint of setting up filters.

What you are alluding to is each individual user perspective, correct?

That may be a good idea...and I have already recommended implementing a "ban" system that basically would accomplish this. But you are coming from the persepctive of ignoring threads or posts where users have responded to, correct?

And what you are implying is that users would be able to choose to read or ignore those posts, correct?
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Buh Bye!

Cheers,
Me
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Yes Im talking from the users point of view.

>>But you are coming from the persepctive of ignoring threads or posts where users have responded to, correct? <<

Not necessarily, filtering by status/username wouldn't require it.

I mean either filtering out users completely by their user account (ie username/status/email) or by post/thread topic (ie subject line, common words) etc.

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Hi Eliot

Yes, I am coming from an user's point of view. Something an Administtrator would have no control over. Well, saying that, maybe they could flag up some messages as broadcasted to everyone, like the Announcement section - but I doubt people would filter those out anyway.

It just works so well for Usenet. I kill all posts with "newbie" or "HELP!!!!!" in the subject line and my number of posts are dramaticaly reduced and I am left to concentrate on the more advanced stuff.

Cheers

- wil
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Hi Alex

Interesting developments @ http://slashdot.org today:

Slashdot Code Update

You will likely notice a variety of changes in the comments system if you are logged in. Most of these changes surround the new 'Zoo' system which implements (among other things) a sort of killfile function, and much more. Logged in users have the ability to flag each other as Friends or Foes, and assign bonuses and penalties appropriately. So if a user annoys you, you can easily not read their comments any more. If you notice any bugs, feel free to submit them or let krow or me know.

Is this on a to-do list, or would this be up to someone to write a hack?

Cheers

- wil

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Wil: Jan 4, 2002, 1:57 AM
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Has there been any progress on an IGNORE USER plug-in?
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Re: [shiner] Suggestion: Kill File In reply to
Jag replied to you here....

http://www.gossamer-threads.com/...;;page=unread#unread
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Re: [Paul] Suggestion: Kill File In reply to
Paul,

Thanks for the amazing plug-in!
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Re: [shiner] Suggestion: Kill File In reply to
Erm, forgive me for saying so but Jag pointed you to my thread saying my plugins are no longer available.

Who gave you a copy?
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Re: [Paul] Suggestion: Kill File In reply to
Paul,

I think you removed the Block_User.tar file from this post yesterday:

http://www.gossamer-threads.com/...string=bored;#214321

I just kept looking for posts, made by you, about Block User and after about 10 minutes of looking through posts, I found your original message with the file attached - so no one sent it to me, it was in the forum. I hope I have not offended you.
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Re: [shiner] Suggestion: Kill File In reply to
You must have been quick as I removed it 4 minutes after Jag replied to you and you didn't reply to him until 5 hours later.

As my post explains my plugins are no longer available so I'd prefer you didn't use it (even though you managed to get a copy).
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Has there been any progress on an IGNORE USER plug-in?


I'm considering this feature (at least on a basic level) for GForum 2. The way I see it is that you have the ability to "ignore" any user, which means that their posts either don't show up at all, or show up with just:

[You have ignored this user. Click here to remove them from your ignore list]

Perhaps there will also be some sort of link to show the post anyway - it hasn't been decided for sure how we'll handle this feature.

Jason Rhinelander
Gossamer Threads
jason@gossamer-threads.com
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Re: [Jagerman] Suggestion: Kill File In reply to
Thank you! As forums grow, so does the policing responsibility on the administrators. This plugin shifts that burdon onto the community - where it belongs.
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Re: [shiner] Suggestion: Kill File In reply to
Yes I agree, the function really enables users to handle any hastle that comes about between them and another user.

I also think that the idea of indicating that posts are not displayed is an extremely good idea since people may miss anything from an insult (which they may be happy not to see) to some important feedback or info. What you suggests enables them to decide whether to look or not, but they know about it.

Wouldn't it be possible for this function to cover Paul's two plug-ins though. I think they are two of the most important plug-ins in the scope of handing over power to the users to handle difficult situations.

- Blocking Private Messages from specific users.
- Blocking Fourm Messages from specific users.

I understand Paul has his reasons for stopping work on his plug-ins but I think they are two great functions that should be taken up by the official version.

Also the Karma plug-in / A user review opinion system is something that would also be great function that Paul has brought us and would be cool to see in the official release...

Suffice to say, thanks Paul and I hope to see your work echoed in the official release. Wink

John
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