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'Guest' or 'not-logged in' permissions
Maybe it's only a matter of me understanding a few terms here...
but for 'Guests'.... does that 'title' equate to 'not logged in' visitors?

I want 'visitors' (someone mnot logged in) to be able to read a few forums but not others. I can't seem to get 'Guests' which I thought was the same as 'not logged in' to be able to see the threads in one or two of my forums.

I set Guest permissions to read access but everytime you click on the thread without having logged in it just pops up the login screen.

Is there any way to grant 'visitors' (people not logged in) read access?