Hello,

I want price ranges search in dbman. Normally it works when the record of database is wrote only numer (ie. 120000) price ranges search works fine. But the record is wrote with $ and ","commar(ie. $120,000) price ranges search don't work. There are always search failed. Is there any solution? Thank you so much in advance for any help.

plee:
Try these threads they should help you to find an answer.
http://www.gossamer-threads.com/scripts/forum/resources/Forum12/HTML/001123.html
http://www.gossamer-threads.com/scripts/forum/resources/Forum12/HTML/000511.html
http://www.gossamer-threads.com/scripts/forum/resources/Forum12/HTML/000242.html

Hope the above threads help you to find your answer.

Yo, Lois... you'll make a few more friends (or a few less enemies ) if you throttle back on the criticism. Eliot *frequently* has the *right* answer *faster* than anyone else... if you spend anytime on these forums, you'd know that. The fact that he was responding to plee's direct plea makes your position untenable... would no response be better? If you care to discus this further, feel free to send me a direct email to not further clog this overtaxed message board software... which admitedly s*cks. [Sidebar: why on earth is UBB so popular? It's not very good, IMHO...]

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Going to end up adding yet another item to those a person must sift thru when doing a search for the problem however, I fully agree with LoisC.

Eliot, is a wealth of knowledge and when he takes a notion to really help someone, his input is invaluable.

When searching for resources, it helps no one to continually get results with messages such as,
Search for it
I don't have time
Get it? Got it? Good!
Hire someone

When someone posts a question, they should not be subjected to put-downs, insults and arrogance. This is Gossamer-Thread's support forum, replies to questions should be in the spirit of supporting GT, not in insulting their users.

The committment of time and resources to provide support by unpaid volunteers and product users is commendable and applauded. Value is added with the quality of replies - not the quantity. When a reply has no useable content, it is worthless and deminishes the ability to put the well-touted "search" to use for locating information.

It is interesting to note and watch across these boards - this time last year, last summer - there seemed to be such a spirit of cooperation. Many people learned a good portion of the skills they now use for providing feedback right here on these message boards.

Now, however, some of those people who were then learning feel they are paying their debt for learning by insulting and chastizing other people entering into this arena rather than nurturing that learning environment.

I didn't buy the scripts to be insulted or humiliated. I don't post often to the boards because I would have a VERY tough time not lashing back on some of the replies I've seen on these boards.

Oftentimes, people post to the boards because they haven't been able to find appropriate info on what they'd like to do with their installation of the scripts.

Sometimes, this is simply a matter of not knowing the right search terms to use or the specific name of a mod which will do what they want or the right ENGLISH words to use for what they want to find. Beliitleing those requests for direction is demeaning to everyone involved and holds no value for the GT products.

There are a good number of people who visit the boards and oftentimes they overlook threads where someone needs assistance simply due to the fact it appears someone is helping - the "numbers" on the initial display indicating an ongoing dialogue when in fact the numbers are someone posting a reply that they don't have time for this. (Well, you know what? If you don't have time, don't answer!) It is a total waste of time for others to use those threads looking for help and seeing only, I don't have time.

You're right, oldmoney, Eliot is a wealth of valuable feedback and information. When he opts to help someone, he seems to be totally committed to the last detail.

However, when Eliot opts to post useless replies, he should be open to hearing the same criticism he so freely distrubutes.

A volunteer is worth their weight in gold - unless they are poisoning the water!






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Karen

Karen:

Thank you for taking the time to say what I was trying to say in not so many words.

I have been following the forums for a over a year now and rarely post due to the responses people get from Eliot.

It is much harder to search when there are useless messages.

I've read all the post where Eliot himself was learning and JPDeni stepped him through all the processes of putting together his databases. Endless posts and hours on her part to do so.

Then once he got a grip on some of the mods she helped him create he then took over responding to others and putting his 2 cents into every question asked. My intuition tells me that is one reason why JPDeni left the forum. I could be wrong but I somewhat doubt it.

But if I was in her shoes I may have done the same thing. She was so great at helping people learn but I could sense the frustration, even though trying to be polite, as she was having to correct routines and advice that Eliot was trying to provide. It was just causing more confusion to those who needed help.

I agree he is familiar with DBMan and can be very helpful with mods that he has used himself with the help of Carol in creating each one.

I did complain to Alex regarding his attitude, but it seems to have just gotten worse. I very much wish that he would stop complaining or leave the forum.

I would very much like to see it become what it was last year again. A friendly place where people are helping each other to find answers.

I wish I was better able to provide answers to people myself, but a programmer I'm not. But when I try to search for answers to provide links, I myself get too frustrated having to weed through rude comments and useless messages which do not provide answers.

I'm sorry if this is not what anyone wants to hear, but I truly believe that if Eliot would spend his time elsewhere we may be able to convince Carol to come back to the forum.

And so the thread continues... my apologies in advance to plee... I know this is not what you bargained for and the following rant has nothing to do with you... really!

This is not even about Eliot... it's about people who have the hubris to believe that they were the first to ever have a problem or want a certain feature... I read just about EVERY post on this and the Links mod forum, and can only conclude that Karen is right about the change in people's attitudes over this time, but not in the way she thinks... the biggest being a move from a spirit of "I want to learn and am willing to make mistakes as a I experiment" to "I want this done for me and am unwilling to lift a finger to do it for myself".

As for Lois' presumption to speak for why Carol has not been active in the forum, it doesn't even deserve a response (and the logic is faulty: post hoc ergo prompter hoc). But to set the facts straight, Eliot's particpation has filled the void left my two absentee moderators (Carol here and Bobsie in Links mods), not the other way around. And while we're starting a petition on who should stay and who should go, ask yourself if you yourself would hold up to such scrutiny?

I have been thinking this privately for some time, but let's see how ridiculous it sounds outloud... how 'bout a private forum for advanced Gossamer-Threads users... price of admission: one original mod...

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 Two problems that spring to mind:

1) Alex has opted not to institute a private forum for Links SQL, as it would be counter productive in many ways and difficult to enforce.

2) How would you define an "original mod?" Surely, everything done here is not 100% original. Would you have to come up with the idea yourself? Do all the programming? Ensure that no one else on this planet has done or thought of a similar thing? I know that sounds nitpicky, but things like this inevitably become elitist and potentially ugly. Sorta like this discussion...

Dan

Response moved here http://www.gossamer-threads.com/...m12/HTML/002290.html


[This message has been edited by oldmoney (edited March 05, 2000).]