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In my error log I keep getting the error, File does not exist: /favicon.ico
I presume a robot is trying to find it.
Any one know what favicon.ico is.

Thanks
Bob
http://totallyfreeads.com


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Hi Bob:

Here you go: http://www.favicon.com/


Dan Cool

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Thanks Dan I will create one.
Also nice to know that Microsoft don't have one.

Thanks
Bob
http://totallyfreeads.com

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Go here too if you want :)

http://www.wiredon.net/favicon/

Installations:http://www.wiredon.net/gt/
Favicon:http://www.wiredon.net/favicon/

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PaulWilson,
I just thought I would let you know that you have a problem with your site.
It will not load with Netscape. It will load with MIE.
I get the header ok but everthing after that will not load.
Looking at your HTML source code, it looks like its missing a couple of </table> tags.
What I have found through a lot of trial and error is that MIE is more tolerant of missing closing tags where Netscape isn't.
Your header will load because it has a closing table tag.
Check your returned source code.
Maybe some others could check it as well, just to confirm this.

Bob
http://totallyfreeadsads.com




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Yeah, does it for me to, in NS 4.75.

Andy

webmaster@ace-installer.com
http://www.ace-installer.com
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Yeah I just checked it out and got the same problem, I'm using Netscape 4.7

I found out the hard way about netscape not being tolerant. We did a uni website for a school project. We'd done all of it by hand coding. Then last minute someone added his part to the site but he used Dreamweaver. It completely messed up the table tags and made the site no longer functional in netscape! So we had to go back through and fix all the problems Dreamweaver had caused.

So if your using an editor like Dreamweaver then I'd check the code it's churning out.



Glenn

Links 2 Mods Site:
http://cgi-resource.co.uk/pages/links2mods.shtml
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Hi,

What a bummer - thanks though for letting me know. If someone could try Netscape again and let me know if it is ok know I'd appreciate it - and the other pages too for that matter - I don't use Netscape.

I've added the closing table tags to the footer so all pages should be ok now but please let me know. Thanks.

Ps: I added the tags to the footer to make sure all pages were updated at once but now some pages have more </table>'s than they need but I'll be doing it manually today.

Thanks again.

Installations:http://www.wiredon.net/gt/
Favicon:http://www.wiredon.net/favicon/

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I don't use Netscape.


You should, because while you may not, your web visitors do, and that is who is using your site, not you. Wink Like mentioned many times in the support forums and other places in the Web, you should test your site via Netscape 3.0 and above, IE 3.02 and above, and even Opera 4.0 and above, to make sure that your web pages are interoperatable between different browsers.

Regards,

Eliot Lee
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I know, I've had Ed testing them for me though..hehe....apparently they look ****. All the menu's/titles are messed up......ugh!

About to download Netscape.......FrownFrownFrown

I heard that Netscape aren't continuing browser development any more....LETS HOPE NOT!!!

Installations:http://www.wiredon.net/gt/
Favicon:http://www.wiredon.net/favicon/

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I heard that Netscape aren't continuing browser development any more....LETS HOPE NOT!!!


What awful source told you that???? If you notice the developments via Netscape's web site, I don't really think they are going to stop development of their web browser anytime soon. And even if they do stop development, doesn't mean that people will stop using Netscape...look at less used browsers, like Mosaic, Lynx, etc...these browsers have not been updated in awhile, however, people STILL use them. Of course, depends on the population of your web users, which do vary from site to site, depending on the type of content you provide your web visitors...and which audiences you market to.

Point being...I would not throw Netscape out of your testing procedures.

The problem with your web pages is the use of CSS2 codes, which are not supported in NS 4.X browsers. Also, your nested tables are not well formatted, due to problems with interrupted table codes you are probably using between HEADER/BODY/FOOTER files.

Regards,

Eliot Lee
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Actually I read it at a well known website - can't remember which though - I was looking for Javascript code I think and came across it......

I wasn't throwing my Netscape users out of the equation but just saying that I hope Netscape go bankrupt and blow up! Smile

My tables seem ok to me - I have tables within tables but that is how they should be otherwise it won't show up properly.

Anyway I will edit the site when I get chance.

Installations:http://www.wiredon.net/gt/
Favicon:http://www.wiredon.net/favicon/

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Well, there is a lot left/right scrolling going on in your site. I am on a 800X600 screen and I have to scoll to the right to continue reading text in your web pages. Based on your traffic, tables/pages, etc., should be formatted to the least common denominator...one of my sites, 25% of our visitors still use 640X480 screens, which means that we have to design our pages for that audience group, while still making the pages look appealing to other screen resolutions.

Your web site(s) may vary...for instance, if you are confident that close to 100% of your web visitors use 800X600 screens, then design for that. If not, then better look at a lower common denominator.

Thus, the tables in your pages are still problematic.

Regards,

Eliot Lee
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Ewww.

Im using 1024x768 and it looks ok - I tried using 800x600 the other day and it looked big but I didn't have to scroll.......

ARGH why does designing a site have to be such an arse.

Netscape and MSIE are the problem - no standardization.

Installations:http://www.wiredon.net/gt/
Favicon:http://www.wiredon.net/favicon/

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Here are some sources that may help you:

* http://www.usableweb.com/

* http://www.webaim.org/

* http://www.w3.org/

Don't blame it on the companies...yes, it makes designing web pages challenging, but if you learn about usability/accessibility issues (which are very important, especially in the United States, with Amendment 508 - http://www.section508.gov/docs/508law.html), it will not be that challenging to design interoperatable web sites.

Regards,

Eliot Lee
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Thanks for the links.

I tried w3.org before but it shows so many errors that it is impossible to fix them all - maybe that is what I must do though...

Will the html validator make the pages viewable cross-browser if I make the changes it points out?

Installations:http://www.wiredon.net/gt/
Favicon:http://www.wiredon.net/favicon/

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Yes...at least address the top priority errors. Some of the errors are judgement calls, but if you address the top errors, it will make your pages interoperatable.

And if you are concerned about disabled users, you should test your web pages via:

Bobby
http://www.cast.org/bobby/

Now...to throw a wrench into the mix, you should also look into XML or other inter-operatable programming languages, if you want your pages to work across different devices, not only client applications.

Wink

See ya...

Regards,

Eliot Lee
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A html validator should help, however you'll still need to be carfeull which tags you use and remember that if you code to validate in say html 4.01 the older browsers weren't built to use accept that standard.

Glenn

Links 2 Mods Site:
http://cgi-resource.co.uk/pages/links2mods.shtml
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My site is a big pair of PANTS!....lol

Back to the drawing board........

Installations:http://www.wiredon.net/gt/
Favicon:http://www.wiredon.net/favicon/

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Yea...looks like you need to look more in-depth past the interrupted/nested tables within your SSI included pages, because I can't even view your WIZARD form:

http://www.wiredon.net/wizard/

OR

http://www.wiredon.net/faq/search.cgi

via NS 4.73



Regards,

Eliot Lee
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That page is php......does that not make a difference?

Installations:http://www.wiredon.net/gt/
Favicon:http://www.wiredon.net/favicon/

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Sure doesn't...the same logic applies in that the files that you are "including" in the PHP file need to be properly outputted with inter-operatable HTML codes. The problem doesn't have to do with HOW you include files, you can do it via Active Server Pages, Cold Fusion, CGI/SSI, javascript, JSP, PHP, Python, etc...the point is properly formatting the HTML output within the "included" files.

Regards,

Eliot Lee
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Quite a good html validator to use offline:

http://www.htmlvalidator.com

Glenn

Links 2 Mods Site:
http://cgi-resource.co.uk/pages/links2mods.shtml
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Yeah, even if at some point Netscape does stop releasing a browser, we will still have to test for Mozilla which is what Netscape 6 is based on. I use Mozilla and Konquerer when I use Linux. Just some future insight.

Later,
Paul

http://www.fullmoonshining.com for Pearl Jam Fans
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Aaaaaaaaaack.

Just installed Communicator 4.76 and my site looks UGLY

It loads but look like a big ol' mess.

The only page that seems to look ok is:

http://www.wiredon.net/wizard/ (surprisingly)


Installs:http://www.wiredon.net/gt/
MODS:http://wiredon.net/gt/download.shtml

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