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>>The way I see it, Rather than try to make money from one website, MS will make millions of dollars by selling 'per-click words'.

I really doubt micro$oft are going to turn the internet into a pay per click search engine. What microsoft is doing will bar far more subtle. If anything they'd just use this ability to leverage deals (such as the aol one) and threaten their rivals, as well as steer users towards msn and .net services, albeit slyly. But I'd doubt they'd have the nerve to do that. After all, that is one they'd definitely get hammered for by doj.

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Ugh

http://www.scripting.com/...marttagsByScoble.gif


umm
http://smarttags.manilasites.com/

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So, M$ lied, eh??? Thanks for the heads-up...

Regards,

Eliot Lee
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Just a note of interest. We had the following mini-thread in our support forums today, looks like the SmartTags are out there, and working :( ... but the Tag that I posted in this thread is correct, and will turn them off...

In Reply To:
Original Post:

I saw a post from an associate on a private women's business
list - she's already had her site affected by Microsofts Smart Tags. Sheesh! She couldn't figure out why several of her words had hyperlinks on it. We gave her the code to remove it, but boy, they're starting already.

I know they say it will be turned "off", but I thought that's what they said from the start.

My Reply:
> The code that I posted here? Can I assume that those
> tags are working, and correct? If so, I'll add them to
> the knowledge base. This is the first actual report
> of this happening, so I was only reporting on other
> people's guesses.

Her Reply Back:
This code -

<meta name="MSSmartTagsPreventParsing" content="TRUE">

I think it's what you posted - I had it saved in my files :)

But yes, it's starting.
Hope this helps everyone. We know that the meta tag will turn them off, and it also seems that M$OFT has a few copies out there with the disable feature not the default ....


John

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The following URL should satisfy - it states that MS will _NOT_ be including smart tags in the final release of Windows XP, so we needn't worry. :)

http://www.zdnet.com/...4586,5093404,00.html

Jason Rhinelander
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http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/19675.html

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That's perfectly understandable, given that the article was written June 13th and Microsoft didn't take out smart tags until two weeks after that article was written.

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It's not just MS who are planning to do this ... have a look here:

http://www.gossamer-threads.com/...w=collapsed&sb=5

All the best
Shaun

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I have to wonder about all these companies that are trying to use "smart tags" - or anything similar. How can it possibly be legal to alter the appearance of someone's website without their explicit permission?

Jason Rhinelander
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I'm wondering how Microsoft feel about having there sites changed and loaded up with other peoples advertising.
What goes around comes around, or however the saying goes.

Bob
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Actually, I wondered if you could redirect all visitors who are using Smart-Tags - maybe to a page that tells them what they are, how they work, how they change your content without your permission, and finally how to DISABLE Smart-Tags on their machine/browser so that they can access your site???

All the best
Shaun



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The point, however, is that we shouldn't _have_ to take action like that just to have a page displayed as we intended.

Think about it - if I was to write a web page about unix web servers (actually, I think this post just qualified), in particularly Apache, IE6 would have just turned all my references to web servers into links to the Microsoft IIS homepage.

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It is totally out of order that they feel they have the right to alter our content for their benefit.

Someone should create a browser that turns links related to Microsoft or MSIE to competitors sites (like Netscape) - I bet the author would find themselves in court quick as a flash.

SMART...nope...DEVIOUS...yes

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"Devious tags"?

Jason Rhinelander
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Not quite the same ring to it huh? Smile - How about "Tamper Tags"

Did they REALLY think that people would be willing to go along with their new idea? .....

"Oh yes Bill, please add smart tags to MSIE6 so you can drive traffic away from my site"

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I expect they were approaching it from the corporate point of view - "Hello Big Corporation 5768. How much will you pay Microsoft if we replace every occurance of the word '5768' with a link to your site?"

To hell with consumers, we don't generate much cash flow, it's the big guys wallets that really count.

Jason Rhinelander
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But when you click on the Big Corporation 5768 link and go to there site, isn't there pages displayed the same way covered with smart tag advertising, or can you pay to get these turned off if your a smart tag advertiser.
I can see this getting way out if hand.
How many more software companies will jump on to this smart tag plugin bandwagon.
How many smart tag plugins can one browser handle before it goes to browser heaven.
Will we see the browser developers banning smart tag plugins from future releases, or maybe a plugin to stop smart tag plugins.

Bob
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I think I found a useful little tip.

To stop smart-tags for EVERY page served by Apache add this into httpd.conf:

Code:
Header add MSSmartTagsPreventParsing "TRUE"
Apache 1.2 onwards.

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Or possibly M$ would auction the rights to the word '5678'
Maybe Company 5678 would get them, maybe their rival '1234 Corp' would get it.

How much would/could you pay M$ for the rights to your trademark or domain name?

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