Gossamer Forum: General: Internet Technologies: Browser Wars...

Jan 24, 2003, 9:59 AM

Andy

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Jan 24, 2003, 9:59 AM

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Browser Wars...

Do my eyes decieve me, or is M$ winning the battle?

1) Internet Explorer 6 2378

65.95%
2) Internet Explorer 5 879

24.38%
3) Netscape Navigator 6 180

4.99%
4) Opera 58

1.61%
5) Netscape Navigator 3 54

1.50%
6) Netscape Navigator 4 45

1.25%
7) Internet Explorer 4 6

0.17%
8) NO USER AGENT 2

0.06%
9) http://mytam 1

0.03%
10) Internet Explorer 3 1

0.03%
11) Teleport Pro/1.29.1632 1

0.03%
12) ia_archiver 1

0.03%

This comparison is done from my stats, with 3606 unique hits recorded.

What do your stats tell you? I seriously can't believe M$ still has such a foothold on the browser market Unsure

Andy (mod)
andy@ultranerds.co.uk

Jan 24, 2003, 10:40 AM

Paul

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Jan 24, 2003, 10:40 AM

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I seriously can't believe M$ still has such a foothold on the browser market

M$ has been kicking ass more and more year on year.

Code:
1. MSIE                        21,409 
   MSIE/6                      19,183  
   MSIE/5                      2,212 
   MSIE/4                      14 

2. Mozilla                     2,314 
   Mozilla/1                   2,198 
   Mozilla/0                   7 

3. Netscape                    397 
   Netscape/7                  236 
   Netscape/4                  152 
   Netscape/6                  7 

4. Netscape (compatible)       334 

5. Galeon                      238 
   Galeon/1                    238 

6. AdSQL                       137 
   AdSQL/1                     137 

7. Microsoft URL Control       135 

8. Opera 52                    8  
   Opera/6                     38 
   Opera/7                     14

Heh my site has only been online for a week or so, so they aren't the most accurate stats.

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Jan 24, 2003, 10:53 AM

SeanP

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Jan 24, 2003, 10:53 AM

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That's because a majority of the world is running some version of Windows as their client, and you can't uninstall the thing. It's almost an "if you can't beat 'em, join 'em," type thing.

Sean

Jan 24, 2003, 12:37 PM

ArmyAirForces

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Jan 24, 2003, 12:37 PM

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Think that's scary, check out mine from December (esp the AOL numbers).

Brower - Unique Visits - % of total

1. AOL 4.x - 40,887 25.23%
2. AOL 7.x - 36,830 22.73%
3. MSIE 6.x - 31,334 19.33%
4. MSIE 5.5 - 12,802 7.90%
5. AOL 6.x - 10,608 6.55%
6. MSIE 5.0x - 10,493 6.47%
7. AOL 5.x - 8,506 5.25%
8. Netscape 4.7 - 2,829 1.75%
9. Netscape 3.x - 2,255 1.39%
10. Netscape 4.x - 2,098 1.29%
11. MSIE 4.x - 859 0.53%
12. WebTV 2.x - 709 0.44%
13. Netscape 2.x - 540 0.33%
14. Netscape 4.5 - 460 0.28%
15. Netscape 6.x - 370 0.23%
16. Opera 3.x - 265 0.16%
17. WebTV 1.x - 96 0.06%
18. MSProxy 2.x - 49 0.03%
19. MSIE 3.x 33 - 0.02%
20. AOL 3.x 15 - 0.01%
21. MSProxy 1.x - 15 0.01%
22. Netscape 1.x - 4 0.00%
23. Opera 5.x - 3 0.00%

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Jan 24, 2003, 12:58 PM

Paul

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Jan 24, 2003, 12:58 PM

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That's because a majority of the world is running some version of Windows as their client, and you can't uninstall the thing. It's almost an "if you can't beat 'em, join 'em," type thing.

Whats to stop you downloading mozilla, phoenix or netscape?

Jan 24, 2003, 1:11 PM

SeanP

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Jan 24, 2003, 1:11 PM

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Whats to stop you downloading mozilla, phoenix or netscape?

Nothing, but I imagine most people just use IE because it's already there. For instance, the company I work for has made IE the standard for it's client machines, so we are ONLY allowed to use IE as a company policy. They do that because it's already installed and a part of the OS. It's easier for them to have their users use what's already there as opposed to having to install another browser to all of their clients.

It's like a car stereo. A lot of people go out and get a new stereo for their car for many reasons, but I'll be willing to bet that a majority of the world just uses the factory stereo because it's already installed and requires no additional work.

Sean

Jan 25, 2003, 1:28 AM

Andy

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Jan 25, 2003, 1:28 AM

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>>>Whats to stop you downloading mozilla, phoenix or netscape? <<<

Most general users don't want the inconvenience of that. Half of general users don't even know what Netscape or Mozilla are...they just rely on what comes with their OS, and thats them done Tongue

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Jan 25, 2003, 2:48 AM

Paul

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Jan 25, 2003, 2:48 AM

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All you have to do is go to yahoo and type in "browser" - guess what pops up first. I betcha plenty of internet users know how to use yahoo ;)

http://search.yahoo.com/bin/search?p=browser

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Jan 30, 2003, 8:18 AM

QooQ

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Jan 30, 2003, 8:18 AM

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hmm, people use what's already installed. oh well, so much for the term "educated users" Wink

Can you unistall IE from M$? I'm serious, and not joking.

Apple's solution :::
Safari "the Konqueror" Tongue

openoffice + gimp + sketch ... Smile

Jan 30, 2003, 8:21 AM

Paul

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Jan 30, 2003, 8:21 AM

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I've not found a way to uninstall IE on XP but it didn't stop me downloading Netscape and Phoenix for testing purposes :)

Jan 30, 2003, 9:00 AM

QooQ

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Jan 30, 2003, 9:00 AM

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ugh, ... ugh ... that sucks.
So it is totally intergrated into the system then.

well, at least it's quick on M$.

and M$ keeps tech support busy

which the tech support being kept busy means happily fed families

so I guess with such logic M$'s ploy of buggy software does make sense in the over all view.

well fed families is a good thing.

Just hope that the well fed families aren't taking away from other families that are not as fortunate.

strange thoughts here.

openoffice + gimp + sketch ... Smile

Jan 30, 2003, 9:02 AM

Wil

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Jan 30, 2003, 9:02 AM

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Similar to Konqurer on KDE I found ... It's your file navigator, your web browser and your desktop rolled into one.

- wil

Jan 30, 2003, 9:07 AM

QooQ

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Jan 30, 2003, 9:07 AM

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ahhh, the hubbub around apple and safari is starting to make sense.

the future browser is a non-browser Cool

watch the fast one that apple will pull in a bit .... I bet they're going to do a M$ one and put their browser into the system and then get away with it while M$ is getting chastised.

@Wil
thanks for the information

openoffice + gimp + sketch ... Smile

Jan 30, 2003, 8:07 PM

Stealth

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