Doesn't bother me. I'm not trying to impose my religion on anyone.
Apr 14, 2003, 10:55 AM
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Apr 14, 2003, 10:55 AM
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How is the caste system essentially different from apartheid?
Is the Indian government secular, socialist and democratic in principle?
Has the Indian government officially ended the caste system and have a policy of affirmative discrimination for the "depressed" classes?
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Apr 14, 2003, 11:13 AM
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Apr 14, 2003, 11:13 AM
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Is the Indian government secular, socialist and democratic in principle?Yep as there are more muslims in India than Pakistan.
Christians are freely allowed to bribe the poor into conversion.
Persians/Zoarastrians do not complain about being repressed.
Sikhism started and was allowed to flourish in India.
Buddism and Jainism started from India and moved to other parts of the world. the list is endless.
Definitely India does not adopt the Bushism Democratic/Secular principles. None of Indian leaders have ever made ladenish type statement like "I have Been sent by God" to do what i am doing. And we do not have a diocese being sued for 3 million usd for sex scams....
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Has the Indian government officially ended the caste system and have a policy of affirmative discrimination for the "depressed" classes?Oh Well it means that Christianity would want an end to Hinduism. Why would Indian Government be doing anything against Hindus while allowing all privilages to minorities.
So misinformed/desperate was the missionary here that they labelled the dalits (who are followers of buddhism) as depressed class and they even dared to fund a group to travel to an international forum.
This country never throws a missionary out on grounds of threat to Hinduism (Like reagan did when he threw out Osho from Oregon and teamed up with his UK compatriot in not allowing him to step in UK under the pre text that he was a threat to Christianity.)
And if Aparthied is equated to caste system i think history text books will have to be re written world over.
Apr 14, 2003, 11:24 AM
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I'm wondering what the purpose of your threads are. Are you just making a point of how much you dislike the west?
Would you not want west and east to get along?
You are obviously against war and terrorism as most people are, but with an opinion as strong as yours it is just creating a division rather than a bond.
Would you not want west and east to get along?
You are obviously against war and terrorism as most people are, but with an opinion as strong as yours it is just creating a division rather than a bond.
Apr 14, 2003, 11:32 AM
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Apr 14, 2003, 11:32 AM
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and have a policy of affirmative discrimination for the "depressed" classes?Check This
Don't tell me 24 years was not enough to have a "Non Western Media" look at the facts....
Apr 14, 2003, 11:45 AM
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Apr 14, 2003, 11:45 AM
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Your explanations seem circular and capricous to me. Maybe if you explained what you want/support instead of what you don't want/support, that would help others understand your point of view. Suggesting a possible solution would be much more constructive than simply protesting others suggestions/ideas.
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Apr 14, 2003, 11:47 AM
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Apr 14, 2003, 11:47 AM
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You are obviously against war and terrorism as most people areTrue. I am against both but with a correction. 'For' war when it comes to fighting the aggressors though the aggressors may comfortably lable this view point as of a "Terrorist" type.
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Would you not want west and east to get along?If it is democratically chosen and not militarily or psuedo militarily (sanctions -- a crippling weapons of mass destruction) imposed.
Apr 14, 2003, 12:07 PM
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Apr 14, 2003, 12:07 PM
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'For' war when it comes to fighting the aggressors though the aggressors may comfortably lable this view point as of a "Terrorist" type.The aggressors were the handful of people who managed to kill over 3000 innocent people in New York.
If there were no terrorists, there would be no war in Iraq. Perhaps you need to look closer to home for a resolution to your woes. Tell all your eastern colleagues to not kill innocent people to try to justify their religious and political stance and then they won't get hunted down.
Apr 14, 2003, 12:14 PM
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Apr 14, 2003, 12:14 PM
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Your explanations seem circular and capricous to me. Maybe if you explained what you want/support instead of what you don't want/support, that would help others understand your point of view.Well i had to make an effort to provide facts (often distatseful to western world).
Countless times such attempts have been categorized as 'Anti American'
Suggesting A Stop To (though oit would be most unlikely event to happen given the Assumed Aura Of Superiority By US):
- Creating Blue Eyed Boys For Creating Regional Disturbances and later labelling them as Terrorists, Anti American and then make the ordinary citizens pay for it with their blood. All for a few dollars more......The list of Frankestien Monsters all created by US are endless.
- Let the World and Civilization Co Exist instead of trying to impose American Wish and style of democracy on others.
Apr 14, 2003, 12:44 PM
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Apr 14, 2003, 12:44 PM
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Paul the problem is that all the persons on Scene have selectively and comfortably turned a blind eye to what US did in the past which lead to 911. Bin laden is a CIA Blue eyed boy. So is Saddam. ( I use 'is' for both of them as there is no confirmation of elimination) So all the so called attrocities which form the basis of So Called Wars of Liberation are in fact Gift of US to Human Civilization thru these monsters carved by US foreign policy. But such bitter facts are comfortably ignored.
These things happen when a nation starts playing 'Pied Piper' to the tunes of Some Other Nations on "Freind's List"
These woes would be definitely solved just like the previous unsuccessful attempt to destabilize my 'Home' by vested western interests.
These things happen when a nation starts playing 'Pied Piper' to the tunes of Some Other Nations on "Freind's List"
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Perhaps you need to look closer to home for a resolution to your woes.These woes would be definitely solved just like the previous unsuccessful attempt to destabilize my 'Home' by vested western interests.
Apr 14, 2003, 12:50 PM
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Paul the problem is that all the persons on Scene have selectively and comfortably turned a blind eye to what US did in the past which lead to 911.So what did lead to it?
Infact, irrespective of that, the bottom line is there is no excuse for terrorism. It sounds like you are trying to justify the actions of terrorists by claiming they had a "reason".
Americans do not instigate terrorism, they defend against it.
Apr 14, 2003, 12:52 PM
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Apr 14, 2003, 12:52 PM
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We welcome facts, it makes a change from your past rambling nonsense.I stopped providing any facts as it was usually labelled Anti America. So I provided you with the opportunity of having the pleasure of categorizing as per your interpretation of affairs.
Apr 14, 2003, 1:00 PM
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It sounds like you are trying to justify the actions of terrorists by claiming they had a "reason".Again misinterpreted as usual. the point is that American Foreig Policy and willful but controlled spread of these elements by constant pampering and funding thru CIA has been the cause. In short White House has bred these so called terrorists and that to to operate on foreign soil armed with chemical and other WMD again from US.
Apr 14, 2003, 1:04 PM
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Apr 14, 2003, 1:04 PM
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Paul,
Obviously India has no political scandal or corporate malfeasance. India will never use nuclear or chemical weapons in an aggressive manner. India's military spending and order of battle dwarfs all neighbors but China, but is purely defensive. And most importantly India a benchmark for human rights and worker's rights that we should all look to.
We should thank anup123 for his cleverness at having uncovered the evils of American and British intent and model ourselves after him. Perhaps even start our own religion like his hero Bhagwan Shree Rajneesh. There's nothing like a little tax fraud, murder for hire, or immigration crimes to start the day off right.
Obviously India has no political scandal or corporate malfeasance. India will never use nuclear or chemical weapons in an aggressive manner. India's military spending and order of battle dwarfs all neighbors but China, but is purely defensive. And most importantly India a benchmark for human rights and worker's rights that we should all look to.
We should thank anup123 for his cleverness at having uncovered the evils of American and British intent and model ourselves after him. Perhaps even start our own religion like his hero Bhagwan Shree Rajneesh. There's nothing like a little tax fraud, murder for hire, or immigration crimes to start the day off right.
Apr 14, 2003, 1:13 PM
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Apr 14, 2003, 1:13 PM
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Nothing of this sort:
http://www.ratical.org/...CAH/ultAgent.html#p2
Well no tongues are cut right under American Nose in Uzbekistan and Rwanda.
http://www.ratical.org/...CAH/ultAgent.html#p2
Well no tongues are cut right under American Nose in Uzbekistan and Rwanda.
Apr 14, 2003, 1:25 PM
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India will never use nuclear or chemical weapons in an aggressive mannerNo First Use Declaration Is Already On records. If evry nation sticks to that then there would be no use. The next question that would come from u is why have it. Yes why can't other nations have it if the nation which used it refuses to give it up?
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Perhaps even start our own religion like his hero Bhagwan Shree RajneeshFreedom Of Speech and Expression. His Ashram in Pune has more Americans than Indians.
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India's military spending and order of battle dwarfs all neighbors but China, but is purely defensive.Peaceful Coexistence does not mean castrating. That's American wish ... Castrate others so that Americans can look in the Mirror and say to themselves ....they are the only Men surviving.
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And most importantly India a benchmark for human rights and worker's rights that we should all look to.look at what is happening in uzbekistan and Rwanda
Apr 14, 2003, 1:54 PM
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Peaceful Coexistence does not mean castrating. That's American wish ... Castrate others so that Americans can look in the Mirror and say to themselves ....they are the only Men surviving.I think we may have come to the root, so to speak, of anup123's vehnomence. An unfortunate deep seated fear of national inferiority.
I'm just surprised he hates us more than he hates you guys.
Apr 14, 2003, 2:10 PM
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An unfortunate deep seated fear of national inferiorityI am really surprised. The inferiority is rooted deep within America (epitomised by Rumsfeld & Co) when his Orion Satellite could not track down movements and developments which culminated in the nuclear tests. Then that spy plane of Garry Powers notoriety was sent over Indian Airspace and was ready to be shot down during egress, which was not shot down only on request to avoid embarassment of the scale when a similar stuff was shot down over Russia/USSR.
Oh Boy....what a comment coming from a nation which feels most inferior on absolute terms. And instead of asking me for evidence of what i have said i think u can ask Rumsfeld and he would hand over the whole transcript of his feelings........
If USS E (1971) could not make us feel inferior nothing could but just as I said..... castrating others so that Americans are the only Men left is the deepest inferiority complex...
Apr 15, 2003, 3:33 AM
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Few setup corner shops and many give signed cheques to Tony Blair in return for lobbying for a steel plant in Romania, cheques for maintaing the London Zoo in return for some favour etcetra etcetra and surprisingly enough none of those Corupt 'Corruption Rating Agencies' ever bring this under definition of corruption. Instead they have that 'Fees for Good Education' and such stuff as Corruption Credit rating system and all being from a sampling system which itself is dubious.