yeah, clearing the cookies using the browsers isn't fixing it on either pc, so i prob have to go into where they cookie files are stored on each pc and delete them that way.. firefox and ie store them differently so it's weird. well at least i can get into adcycle with opera.. they must store cookies differently again. well i think i might be interested in your new ad program.. if its similiar to features in adcycle that i'm used to and easy to use. did you model it after adcycle or advertpro or another ad program out there to get the best features??