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CSS - I see this one as self-evident. It's a good idea.

That's pretty much our feeling - our main concern is whether it will pose difficulties for people who don't know much about HTML or CSS. Undoubtedly it will be more difficult for some people, but hopefully we'll have a system that looks better overall and in the end is easier to make significant changes to.

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What are the statistics for Internet users with or without javascript?

It's hard to say - I expect that 99.9% of browsers support Javascript, but the question remains as to how many are paranoid enough to turn Javascript off. There are, however, sites appearing now that absolutely and completely depend on Javascript - Google Mail being a recent, popular example.

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Formats for manuals - I'd say use all three, PDF, HTML and MS Word. I don't want to be presumptious, but I wouldn't have thought the overheads in time would have been that bad having to update all three.

It isn't, but if no one finds the PDF format useful (as opposed to a MS Word .doc, which is how we write it), we can simply distribute the .doc file instead.

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Personally, I rarely use PDF, preferring HTML for my online software. I only tend to use doc or txt files when I'm installing software on my home machine. A short txt file explaining the basics after I've unarced Gossamer Mail is sufficient for me, with the main documentation online.

This falls into the Tutorials I mentioned - the PDF vs. DOC vs. HTML applies just to the main product manuals, which are currently only distributed as PDF's.

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Installation - my feeling has been to wait for a while after a product is released. I would always read numerous bug reports in software updates. It always seemed a bug fix for the bug fix was released, so it made sense to wait before installing an update.

Hopefully Gossamer Update will solve this problem.

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Personally, I think designing the templates to work in popular and widely used software like Dreamweaver is a must. This is entirely possible, no matter how complex and convoluted the templates, as I do it myself with scripts that make dynamically created content.

I'm not certainly how we could go about making them Dreamweaver-safe - generally most gui editors seem to have problems handling something like:

<input type="radio" name="blah" value="1"<%if checked%> checked<%endif%>>

Some try to correct this (thereby breaking it), others don't display it properly at all.

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