interesting -- google groups. the mail format works well there because of the left bar. With the current G-forum look having 3-4 lines is a bit too much of a block.

yeah, in sense I can see where G-Forums looks like many others. smart though, covers both sides of the coin -- threaded version and flat version -- UBB and wwwThreads. Of course there are some minor differences but lots of those have come about during the beta testing stage.

I would be interested in seeing your idea Will. But google's sytem really needs a bit of time to get used to and jumping through lots of groups is bit of a pain in the arse. I wonder if enough people compliant, complain, and suggest that a new system could be put together and help give G-Forum a difference factor that lots of other forums don't have.

yeah,yeah I know that the code is solid so it's not that type of problem.

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