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This is why the Muslims Hate Western Democracy Perhaps!!!
Why blame the muslims for hating Western Democracy. Even I hate ( and I am not a Muslim) it given the utterances of Toney Greig. It seems that representatives and celeberaties of developed democratic nations would like to see every women from "Un Developed" nations topless.

I have posted the same on the so called human rights site only to be informed that it will be reviewed. I hope that Toney greig or any of his emissaries are not evaluating it. And have also asked them why they are selectively silent on such attrocities by whites on non whites.

Lets see how unbiased they are in their reporting and handling of issues.....It would only serve the purpose if Tony Greig is made to apologise on TV and aired by BBC CNN (which CenCom would probably not allow)...

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anup123: Apr 14, 2003, 10:49 PM
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You have definitely blown a gasket. . .
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Re: [ArmyAirForces] This is why the Muslims Hate Western Democracy Perhaps!!! In reply to
Not clear what u are wanting to convey

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ArmyAirForces wrote: You have definitely blown a gasket. . . anup123 wrote: Not clear what u are wanting to convey

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I think the point was that you have lost contact with reality and are babbling incoherently.
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Re: [BeaverheadRiver] This is why the Muslims Hate Western Democracy Perhaps!!! In reply to
Your mental sickness is much worst than Tony Greg. if you are so supportive of the Tony Greg's Fulfilment of desires then you can offer any American... British or Australian Girl to satiate Tony's basal instincts.

As for having no contact with reality .... yes i never had any contact with this perverted Anglo American Reality where Celeberities want Indian Models Topless and that is aired openly on TV.....

Sorry for this harsh statement but you called for it.

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anup123: Apr 15, 2003, 7:05 AM
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Not clear what u are wanting to convey

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Re: [BeaverheadRiver] This is why the Muslims Hate Western Democracy Perhaps!!! In reply to
Utterances of Toney Greig

This is in plain english with a Quote Unquote section. And this is not based on information of some 13 year old Kuwaiti Girl who came running to CIA with credible intelligence information but was aired live.

That would explain what I tried to convey
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So you point is all western culture and ideologies are monolithic and you believe Toney Greig, whom you describe as a "senile old man", is the stereotypical "westerner"?
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My adjectivisation of Tony Greg as "Senile" was on the basis of cheap desire that he expressed while on Air against a Indian Model & Actress anchoring the program. A nation is recognized by such celebrities to certain extent at least.

Onto the 'Attitude' which has been responsible for this opinion of mine, I would like to quote another example again from British Cricketer and commentator - and reaction to one of his actions - this time the victim being white.

"Sir" Geoffery Boycott was temporarily thrown out of ESPN and his contract with Sun tabloid cancelled when he slammed his wife at some British Airport. Reason - White commited a 'crime' against White.

When it comes to Toney Greig - I do not find any British/ Australian Media or the so called "Human Rights Organizations" (which are WMD's in the Hands of Western Democracies To castigate Non Western democracies) even say anything which could indicate the universality of Western Democratic Philosophy as it claims untiringly very often wrt Human rights and all those issues. Reason - White Commited a crime against a Non White.

I base my opinion on facts rather than prejudice and more often than not they are scoffed at by opponents under some crazy sense of Humour. In fact i had avoided quoting this Tony episode for long but found it impossible to resist from doing so when i found that so many HR links were posted quoting HR issues in India.

I have sent a mail to Humanrightsmonitor and Human Rights Watch asking them as to why these organizations function as 'Weapons Of Mass Destruction' in the hands of Western Democracy quoting this Tony episode and I am sure they would not bother to reply only to strengthen my convictions. If it was vice versa case where a Indian Celebrity would have expressed (which is normally impossible given the cultural history and background) similarly about any 'White Celebrity' i think the Indian celebrity would have been made to run for his lfe. If they feel that the comments are biased they are 'Free To Sue Me' and I am prepared to take the battle to any forum with whatever evidence that i have.

I hope the point is clear....

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anup123: Apr 17, 2003, 1:31 AM
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So you feel these "examples" are justification for the World Trade Center attack?
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Re: [BeaverheadRiver] This is why the Muslims Hate Western Democracy Perhaps!!! In reply to
....but he actually thinks it's a human rights issue. Come on, that's the funny part.
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When I was participating in another one of anup's threads the other day, I suddenly realised, that to heal the rift beween east and west, the solution is not to expand the divide by arguing.

At points throughout all the different east vs west threads we've all said things that could have perhaps been expressed more appropriately but IMO it would be beneficial to try to understand where each other is coming from rather than taking part in a potentially never ending discussion that will only end in further friction.

This isn't directed at you ArmyAirForces, I was just adding a general "thinking out loud" onto the end of the thread.
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Re: [Paul] This is why the Muslims Hate Western Democracy Perhaps!!! In reply to
If I thought of this as some great rift between cultures I might agree with you.

Now if the lame flirtations of an old cricket analyst on a TV show somewhere are in danger of causing a cultural pogrom on the subcontinent, then by all means let's end it.

However, I cannot bring myself to take any of these, or his, postings as anything other than what they are.

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ArmyAirForces: Apr 17, 2003, 9:46 AM
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I used east vs west a bit too generally, I just meant in the context of the forum.
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I would have used "rational vs irrational" myself (first post in thread?), but point taken Tongue
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Re: [BeaverheadRiver] This is why the Muslims Hate Western Democracy Perhaps!!! In reply to
Did I say so?

Sufferings to Civilians can never be justified (by any means -- terrorism --- aggression -- intimidation).

Point is the arbitrary manner in which issues are handled.

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Come on, that's the funny part.

Mental agony, sexual harassment (verbal, physical) at work place (where comentators and host for that assigned period of time fall within definition of workplace ... as they are doing a job at a given location for a given period of time and compensated monetarily) all I_Think are part of HR issues unlesss the same again is decided as per convenience of "developed nations".

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that to heal the rift beween east and west, the solution is not to expand the divide by arguing

Swami Vivekanand had made a journey to US in early part of the last century with the idea of spreading Best Of east And West (without reference to any religious beliefs).

Unfortunately, maybe his words were also taken as "rantings" as the rift seems to be ever widening.