andrew at sawdog
Mar 2, 2006, 8:40 AM
Post #19 of 46
On Thu, 2006-03-02 at 09:52 +0100, Paul Everitt wrote:
> Geoff is offering to help on the existing site. That's an urgent need,
> from all the (ahem) constructive responses I've seen to his note. The
> more he helps on the current site, the less pressure you'll have on the
> "start-from-scratch" plan.
I understand - but I don't think 'starting' from scratch is as duanting
as it appears, because the scope is VERY VERY limited. I am excited
about making this happen. I'd like Geoff to assist making this happen.
I think it's close, and whatever effort is made towards the existing
site could literally launch a new one.
> I've seen the point made in this thread about choosing Plone and no
> Plone people helping. Here's the reason I went from very active to
> I never got a response to that note. Actually, I did get a one word
> private response from the ZC CFO: "Understood". Perhaps things changed,
> but like others, I got the message about the value of my contributions.
> Plone pre-1.0 might be part of the problem. But the bigger problem is
> the red tape and attitude. Plone.org, OTOH, has over a hundred
> how-to's, over 20 long tutorials, good doc organization, active system
> administration, great performance, and around 4 active
> *documentation-only* reviewers. Even atop that "awful" Plone software. :^)
> zope.org is dead. plone.org is quite alive. What's the difference in
> these two?
> For what ever reason, zope.org gives off a distinct "you're not wanted
> here" vibe, especially if you're a Plone person.
> Andrew Sawyers wrote:
> > Geoff,
> > Daily several of us (Michael, Martijn F, Phillip V, and a couple others)
> > utilize #zope-web to try and further work that has been going on for
> > awhile to get a suitable zope.org rolled out and upgraded that the
> > community can be proud of. There are people working on docs, marketing
> > data, newsletters, layout/design upgrades and more. Please participate
> > in the existing drive, not start a new one. :)
> > I'd love to see ya drop by. There's no secret that the current site
> > needs fixing; lets pool the collective interest and get it finished
> > up.....
> > Andrew Sawyers
> > On Fri, 2006-02-24 at 12:09 -0500, Geoff Davis wrote:
> >> Hi all--
> >> I think the idea of a Zope 3 web site rewrite is a great one. However,
> >> since Zope 2 is going to continue to be around for awhile, I am wondering
> >> if we might be able to shore up the Zope 2 resources in a reasonable way?
> >> Migrating all the community content sounds like a herculean task; I'm
> >> talking about doing something with rather narrower scope. Here is what I
> >> propose:
> >> * Create a new zope.org (or zope2.org) for Zope 2 that is focused on 2
> >> things:
> >> 1) Distribution of Zope 2 and related add-ons
> >> 2) Documentation
> >> * Maintain all the old community content in the current instance and bind
> >> the two together using URL rewriting.
> >> The Plone community has developed a couple of products for distributing
> >> software (PloneSoftwareCenter) and for maintaining documentation
> >> (PloneHelpCenter). You can see these in action at
> >> http://plone.org/products and http://plone.org/documentation ,
> >> respectively.
> >> I know that zope.org gets a lot of traffic; we also have a product for
> >> making Plone play nicely with Squid.
> >> I think that people in the Plone community would be willing to help out
> >> with getting such a site set up. The bigger task would be moving
> >> community content to the new setup.
> >> Is there any interest?
> >> Geoff
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