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michael at d2m

Aug 31, 2004, 12:48 AM

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zope.org - changes

On the zope.org frontpage i removed the box
"CA and Zope to Bring Open Source Content Management to Mainstream
Enterprise Market"

The link to http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/040524/nym203_1.html has expired.

See also: http://zope.org/changelog

Michael

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chris at simplistix

Aug 31, 2004, 2:50 AM

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Re: zope.org - changes [In reply to]

Michael Haubenwallner wrote:

> See also: http://zope.org/changelog

Was that there or did you start it?

cheers,

Chris

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michael at d2m

Aug 31, 2004, 3:57 AM

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Chris Withers wrote:
> Michael Haubenwallner wrote:
>
>> See also: http://zope.org/changelog
>
>
> Was that there or did you start it?
>

http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-web/2004-August/003298.html

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chris at simplistix

Jan 18, 2005, 1:32 PM

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Re: zope.org - changes [In reply to]

Michael Haubenwallner wrote:

> Chris Withers wrote:
>
>> Michael Haubenwallner wrote:
>>
>>> See also: http://zope.org/changelog
>>
>>
>>
>> Was that there or did you start it?
>>
>
> http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-web/2004-August/003298.html

I suspect this changelog will become just another fossil.
I think the only hope is to add comments in code.

What do others feel?

Chris

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michael at d2m

Jan 21, 2005, 12:48 AM

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Re: zope.org - changes [In reply to]

Chris Withers wrote:

> Michael Haubenwallner wrote:
>
>> Chris Withers wrote:
>>
>>> Michael Haubenwallner wrote:
>>>
>>>> See also: http://zope.org/changelog
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Was that there or did you start it?
>>>
>>
>> http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-web/2004-August/003298.html
>
>
> I suspect this changelog will become just another fossil.

Not at all, you are welcome to add your changes too.

> I think the only hope is to add comments in code.
>

Comments are added in code as necessary.

> What do others feel?
>

I'd be glad to add the changes to
http://zope.org/Collectors/ZopeOrg/
instead of using the /changelog file

if we could flag them under topic e.g. 'changelog'
and restrict access to manager role only.

Michael

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chris at simplistix

Jan 21, 2005, 1:44 AM

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Re: zope.org - changes [In reply to]

Michael Haubenwallner wrote:
>> I suspect this changelog will become just another fossil.
>
> Not at all, you are welcome to add your changes too.

What if I, or others, forget to update it?

> I'd be glad to add the changes to
> http://zope.org/Collectors/ZopeOrg/
> instead of using the /changelog file
>
> if we could flag them under topic e.g. 'changelog'
> and restrict access to manager role only.

Hurm, really all the software should be on disk, then comments could be
maintained in a SVN or CVS log...

Chris

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michael at d2m

Jan 21, 2005, 1:46 AM

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Re: zope.org - changes [In reply to]

Chris Withers wrote:

> Michael Haubenwallner wrote:
>> I'd be glad to add the changes to
>> http://zope.org/Collectors/ZopeOrg/
>> instead of using the /changelog file
>>
>> if we could flag them under topic e.g. 'changelog'
>> and restrict access to manager role only.
>
>
> Hurm, really all the software should be on disk, then comments could be
> maintained in a SVN or CVS log...
>

No problem here, just lets do it ...

Michael

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chris at simplistix

Jan 21, 2005, 1:53 AM

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Re: zope.org - changes [In reply to]

Michael Haubenwallner wrote:
>> Hurm, really all the software should be on disk, then comments could
>> be maintained in a SVN or CVS log...
>>
> No problem here, just lets do it ...

Well, the problem is with so much stuff living in the "custom" folder :-S

Has anyone made any headway on getting this stuff back into the
disk-based software?

Chris

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michael at d2m

Jan 21, 2005, 1:57 AM

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Re: zope.org - changes [In reply to]

Chris Withers wrote:

> Michael Haubenwallner wrote:
>
>>> Hurm, really all the software should be on disk, then comments could
>>> be maintained in a SVN or CVS log...
>>>
>> No problem here, just lets do it ...
>
>
> Well, the problem is with so much stuff living in the "custom" folder :-S
>
> Has anyone made any headway on getting this stuff back into the
> disk-based software?
>

No problem to have a FilesystemDirectoryView for just the customized
objects. I guess the changes are all zope.org specific, so no need to
change the products.

Michael

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michael at d2m

Jan 21, 2005, 2:00 AM

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Re: zope.org - changes [In reply to]

Michael Haubenwallner wrote:

> Chris Withers wrote:
>
>> Michael Haubenwallner wrote:
>>
>>>> Hurm, really all the software should be on disk, then comments could
>>>> be maintained in a SVN or CVS log...
>>>>
>>> No problem here, just lets do it ...
>>
>>
>>
>> Well, the problem is with so much stuff living in the "custom" folder :-S
>>
>> Has anyone made any headway on getting this stuff back into the
>> disk-based software?
>>
>
> No problem to have a FilesystemDirectoryView for just the customized
> objects. I guess the changes are all zope.org specific, so no need to
> change the products.
>

All that is needed with FSDVs is, zope.org (not running in debug mode)
will need a restart everytime you make a change to the skins.

Michael

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chris at simplistix

Jan 24, 2005, 2:06 AM

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Re: zope.org - changes [In reply to]

Michael Haubenwallner wrote:
>>> Well, the problem is with so much stuff living in the "custom" folder
>>> :-S
>>>
>>> Has anyone made any headway on getting this stuff back into the
>>> disk-based software?
>>>
>> No problem to have a FilesystemDirectoryView for just the customized
>> objects. I guess the changes are all zope.org specific, so no need to
>> change the products.

I'm pretty sure such a thing exists, it's just that people shoved stuff
in custom 'cos it was easier to do :-S

> All that is needed with FSDVs is, zope.org (not running in debug mode)
> will need a restart everytime you make a change to the skins.

...yeah, and this could be a pain. It maybe well have BEEN the pain that
lead to so much stuff in 'custom' in the first place ;-)

Chris

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pw_lists at slinkp

Jan 24, 2005, 8:09 AM

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Re: zope.org - changes [In reply to]

On Mon, Jan 24, 2005 at 10:06:49AM +0000, Chris Withers wrote:
> >>No problem to have a FilesystemDirectoryView for just the customized
> >>objects. I guess the changes are all zope.org specific, so no need to
> >>change the products.
>
> I'm pretty sure such a thing exists, it's just that people shoved stuff
> in custom 'cos it was easier to do :-S

fwiw, I have used the FSDump product successfully to
dump things from folders onto the filesystem to prepare for
putting them in an FSDV.

IIRC there was some post-dump tweaking needed but I've forgotten what,
it didn't take long... anyway the process was a whole lot faster than
manual copy/paste would have been.

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