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garry at schoolteachers

Apr 2, 2009, 6:02 AM

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znolk wizard

Does anybody have a recent-ish copy of Znolk wizard product or know where I
could get hold of a copy. The original source no longer has it and the one on
the zope.org site is very old. In particular I would like it to function with
SQLite.
Regards
Garry
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chris at simplistix

Apr 2, 2009, 12:28 PM

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garry [at] schoolteachers wrote:
> Does anybody have a recent-ish copy of Znolk wizard product or know where I
> could get hold of a copy. The original source no longer has it and the one on
> the zope.org site is very old. In particular I would like it to function with
> SQLite.

Doesn't think generate SQL methods or something similarly old and crufty?
I seem to remember this thing spitting out dtml...

Any reason you couldn't do what you want it to do as a seperate wsgi app?

Chris

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garry at schoolteachers

Apr 2, 2009, 1:18 PM

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Re: znolk wizard [In reply to]

Quoting Chris Withers <chris [at] simplistix>:

> garry [at] schoolteachers wrote:
>> Does anybody have a recent-ish copy of Znolk wizard product or know where I
>> could get hold of a copy. The original source no longer has it and
>> the one on
>> the zope.org site is very old. In particular I would like it to
>> function with
>> SQLite.
>
> Doesn't think generate SQL methods or something similarly old and crufty?

Yes it is old, but it is the only reliable thing I've found to rapidly
generate
database edit forms and csv up/download methods.

> I seem to remember this thing spitting out dtml...

It generates dtml and ZSQLmethods reliably.

>
> Any reason you couldn't do what you want it to do as a seperate wsgi app?

Yes, it is not used to generate finished apps, only prototypes and initial
templates.
Like my Ducati it's old, but like my Ducati it still works, and I'm not
going to
throw the Ducati away just because it's old.


Regards
Garry

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chris at simplistix

Apr 2, 2009, 1:20 PM

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garry [at] schoolteachers wrote:
> Yes it is old, but it is the only reliable thing I've found to rapidly
> generate
> database edit forms and csv up/download methods.

You should really give Django a go for this sort of thing, from what I
understand, it's one of its main sweetspots...

Chris

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robert at redcor

Apr 2, 2009, 10:36 PM

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Re: znolk wizard [In reply to]

take collective.mercury this generates intterfaces from every table.
with such an interface yaou need only a couple of lines to build an edit form
for every table.
somethings like:

class DeclarationKLView(formbase.PageForm):
form_fields = form.Fields(ItblDeclaration_klTable)
ignoreContext = True # don't use context to get widget data

#def __init__(self, *args, **kw):
#ItemAddForm.__init__(self, *args, **kw)

@form.action(_(u"Send"))
def action_send(self, action, data):
"""Send the email to the site administrator and redirect to the
front page, showing a status message to say the message was received.
"""
self.ToWhatIsNeededToBeDone(..)

robert
garry [at] schoolteachers schrieb:
> Quoting Chris Withers <chris [at] simplistix>:
>
>> garry [at] schoolteachers wrote:
>>> Does anybody have a recent-ish copy of Znolk wizard product or know where I
>>> could get hold of a copy. The original source no longer has it and
>>> the one on
>>> the zope.org site is very old. In particular I would like it to
>>> function with
>>> SQLite.
>> Doesn't think generate SQL methods or something similarly old and crufty?
>
> Yes it is old, but it is the only reliable thing I've found to rapidly
> generate
> database edit forms and csv up/download methods.
>
>> I seem to remember this thing spitting out dtml...
>
> It generates dtml and ZSQLmethods reliably.
>
>> Any reason you couldn't do what you want it to do as a seperate wsgi app?
>
> Yes, it is not used to generate finished apps, only prototypes and initial
> templates.
> Like my Ducati it's old, but like my Ducati it still works, and I'm not
> going to
> throw the Ducati away just because it's old.
>
>
> Regards
> Garry
>
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senger at rehfisch

Apr 3, 2009, 3:09 AM

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Re: znolk wizard [In reply to]

Hi Garry,

garry [at] schoolteachers schrieb:
> Does anybody have a recent-ish copy of Znolk wizard product or know where I
> could get hold of a copy. The original source no longer has it and the one on
> the zope.org site is very old. In particular I would like it to function with
> SQLite.

Times are fast moving. Interesting to see such interests in something
ancient to start an excavation ;-)

Znolk 0.1.9 is hidden on zope.org.

http://www.zope.org/Members/zwork/Znolk_SQL_Wizard/default

I think 0.2 was developed at bluedynamics and never released.

http://svn.bluedynamics.net/svn/public/ZnolkSQLWizard/



..Carsten

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chris at simplistix

Apr 3, 2009, 9:49 AM

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Re: znolk wizard [In reply to]

Carsten Senger wrote:
> Times are fast moving. Interesting to see such interests in something
> ancient to start an excavation ;-)
>
> Znolk 0.1.9 is hidden on zope.org.
>
> http://www.zope.org/Members/zwork/Znolk_SQL_Wizard/default
>
> I think 0.2 was developed at bluedynamics and never released.
>
> http://svn.bluedynamics.net/svn/public/ZnolkSQLWizard/

Maybe whoever wants to use it could pick it up and do a public,
prominent release of the latest fixed version somewhere?

Chris

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robert at redcor

Apr 4, 2009, 12:54 AM

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Re: znolk wizard [In reply to]

Chris Withers schrieb:
> Carsten Senger wrote:
>> Times are fast moving. Interesting to see such interests in something
>> ancient to start an excavation ;-)
>>
>> Znolk 0.1.9 is hidden on zope.org.
>>
>> http://www.zope.org/Members/zwork/Znolk_SQL_Wizard/default
>>
>> I think 0.2 was developed at bluedynamics and never released.
>>
>> http://svn.bluedynamics.net/svn/public/ZnolkSQLWizard/
>
> Maybe whoever wants to use it could pick it up and do a public,
> prominent release of the latest fixed version somewhere?
>
> Chris
>
I thought this could be a nice idea and had a look at the code.
Might be that it would not be hard. However this code is so crufty that I really
would not want to touch it.
Although not ttw and with the need of some coding, you can achieve a similar
result with buildout and collective.mercury.
I used this combination to create the needed forms for a postgres db with some
140 tables.

robert
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