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benji at zope

Nov 3, 2007, 7:59 AM

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Re: [Checkins] SVN: zc.i18n/trunk/setup.py vb

From the check-in messages:
> Changed:
> U zc.i18n/trunk/setup.py

> - version = '0.5.2',
> + version = '0.6.0',

As best I can tell,
http://svn.zope.org/*checkout*/Sandbox/philikon/foundation/releasing-software.txt
was accepted as policy (Jim endorsed it and no one maintained public
objections).

Therefore, anyone editing the trunk version numbers needs add "dev" (no
hyphen) on the end. Thanks.
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srichter at cosmos

Nov 3, 2007, 10:24 AM

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Re: Re: [Checkins] SVN: zc.i18n/trunk/setup.py vb [In reply to]

On Saturday 03 November 2007, Benji York wrote:
> Therefore, anyone editing the trunk version numbers needs add "dev" (no
> hyphen) on the end. Thanks.

I just reread Jim's edict E-mail about the topic and noticed that I indeed
missed the "dev" postfix. That changes nothing about the fact that I still
think this is totally silly.

Regards,
Stephan
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philipp at weitershausen

Nov 3, 2007, 1:24 PM

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Re: [Checkins] SVN: zc.i18n/trunk/setup.py vb [In reply to]

Stephan Richter wrote:
> On Saturday 03 November 2007, Benji York wrote:
>> Therefore, anyone editing the trunk version numbers needs add "dev" (no
>> hyphen) on the end. Thanks.
>
> I just reread Jim's edict E-mail about the topic and noticed that I indeed
> missed the "dev" postfix. That changes nothing about the fact that I still
> think this is totally silly.

As far as I see (and apparently Jim, too, since he agreed to use this
policy) it's the best compromise between

- making sure that nobody creates releases from the trunk (hence the
"dev" marker)

- giving development eggs from the trunk or a release branch a
*meaningful* revision number (hence the version bump you find so silly)

Naturally I'm willing to listen to alternative suggestions.

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tseaver at palladion

Nov 4, 2007, 5:16 AM

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Re: [Checkins] SVN: zc.i18n/trunk/setup.py vb [In reply to]

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Stephan Richter wrote:
> On Saturday 03 November 2007, Benji York wrote:
>> Therefore, anyone editing the trunk version numbers needs add "dev" (no
>> hyphen) on the end. Thanks.
>
> I just reread Jim's edict E-mail about the topic and noticed that I indeed
> missed the "dev" postfix. That changes nothing about the fact that I still
> think this is totally silly.

I'll agree -- I don't want the trunk to have *any* version number in it,
because I don't want anyone to even think about doing a release from the
trunk. It wouldn't need changing, either.

Tres.
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tseaver at palladion

Nov 4, 2007, 5:16 AM

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Re: [Checkins] SVN: zc.i18n/trunk/setup.py vb [In reply to]

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Stephan Richter wrote:
> On Saturday 03 November 2007, Benji York wrote:
>> Therefore, anyone editing the trunk version numbers needs add "dev" (no
>> hyphen) on the end. Thanks.
>
> I just reread Jim's edict E-mail about the topic and noticed that I indeed
> missed the "dev" postfix. That changes nothing about the fact that I still
> think this is totally silly.

I'll agree -- I don't want the trunk to have *any* version number in it,
because I don't want anyone to even think about doing a release from the
trunk. It wouldn't need changing, either.

Tres.
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philipp at weitershausen

Nov 4, 2007, 7:50 AM

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Re: [Checkins] SVN: zc.i18n/trunk/setup.py vb [In reply to]

Tres Seaver wrote:
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> Stephan Richter wrote:
>> On Saturday 03 November 2007, Benji York wrote:
>>> Therefore, anyone editing the trunk version numbers needs add "dev" (no
>>> hyphen) on the end. Thanks.
>> I just reread Jim's edict E-mail about the topic and noticed that I indeed
>> missed the "dev" postfix. That changes nothing about the fact that I still
>> think this is totally silly.
>
> I'll agree -- I don't want the trunk to have *any* version number in it,
> because I don't want anyone to even think about doing a release from the
> trunk. It wouldn't need changing, either.

I'd like that too, but it breaks the expectations you'd have about the
development egg that's defined by a trunk checkout. It needs a
meaningful version number to satisfy version constraints like
z3c.foopkg>=1.3.
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jim at zope

Nov 4, 2007, 2:34 PM

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Re: Re: [Checkins] SVN: zc.i18n/trunk/setup.py vb [In reply to]

On Nov 3, 2007, at 4:24 PM, Philipp von Weitersehausen wrote:

> Stephan Richter wrote:
>> On Saturday 03 November 2007, Benji York wrote:
>>> Therefore, anyone editing the trunk version numbers needs add
>>> "dev" (no
>>> hyphen) on the end. Thanks.
>> I just reread Jim's edict E-mail about the topic and noticed that
>> I indeed missed the "dev" postfix. That changes nothing about the
>> fact that I still think this is totally silly.
>
> As far as I see (and apparently Jim, too, since he agreed to use
> this policy) it's the best compromise between
>
> - making sure that nobody creates releases from the trunk (hence
> the "dev" marker)
>
> - giving development eggs from the trunk or a release branch a
> *meaningful* revision number (hence the version bump you find so
> silly)

Consider this an edict. (Not if I can just remember to add "dev"....)

Thanks for putting this together,

Jim

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