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Jun 9, 2005, 8:24 AM

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Zope 2.8 coming this weekend

Heads up for the 2.8.0 final release. My plans are to make the final
release on Saturday morning. So any further changes should be done by
tomorrow at the latest.

Cheers,
-aj

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Jun 10, 2005, 9:16 AM

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Re: Zope 2.8 coming this weekend [In reply to]

On Thu, Jun 09, 2005 at 05:24:08PM +0200, Andreas Jung wrote:
> Heads up for the 2.8.0 final release. My plans are to make the final
> release on Saturday morning. So any further changes should be done by
> tomorrow at the latest.
>
> Cheers,
> -aj

Mind if I check in text-only changes to the 2_8 branch?
I'm playing with a checkout of the Zope-2_8-branch right now,
and while I was looking at doc/*txt to see what if anything is
said about migrating to 2.8, I noticed some really trivial typos
which I'd gladly check in (and merge to the trunk too).

5710 unit tests... holy cow.

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Jun 10, 2005, 9:39 AM

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On 6/10/05, Paul Winkler <pw_lists [at] slinkp> wrote:
> Mind if I check in text-only changes to the 2_8 branch?

It's still Friday for Andreas, so this is a good time!

-Fred

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Jun 10, 2005, 10:27 AM

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--On 10. Juni 2005 12:39:50 -0400 Fred Drake <fdrake [at] gmail> wrote:

> On 6/10/05, Paul Winkler <pw_lists [at] slinkp> wrote:
>> Mind if I check in text-only changes to the 2_8 branch?
>
> It's still Friday for Andreas, so this is a good time!
>

yeah...countdown is running :-)

-aj

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Jun 10, 2005, 11:21 AM

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Re: Zope 2.8 coming this weekend [In reply to]

On Fri, Jun 10, 2005 at 07:27:15PM +0200, Andreas Jung wrote:
> --On 10. Juni 2005 12:39:50 -0400 Fred Drake <fdrake [at] gmail> wrote:
>
> >On 6/10/05, Paul Winkler <pw_lists [at] slinkp> wrote:
> >>Mind if I check in text-only changes to the 2_8 branch?
> >
> >It's still Friday for Andreas, so this is a good time!
> >
>
> yeah...countdown is running :-)
>
> -aj

Done. Like I said, just trivial docs typos.

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Jun 10, 2005, 12:07 PM

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Re: Zope 2.8 coming this weekend [In reply to]

On Fri, Jun 10, 2005 at 02:21:32PM -0400, Paul Winkler wrote:
> Done. Like I said, just trivial docs typos.

While I'm at it, anybody object to the attached patch to
doc/FAQ.txt ?

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Attachments:

FAQ.txt.diff (2.13 KB)

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Jun 10, 2005, 12:13 PM

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Re: Zope 2.8 coming this weekend [In reply to]

On Fri, Jun 10, 2005 at 03:07:51PM -0400, Paul Winkler wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 10, 2005 at 02:21:32PM -0400, Paul Winkler wrote:
> > Done. Like I said, just trivial docs typos.
>
> While I'm at it, anybody object to the attached patch to
> doc/FAQ.txt ?

(snip)

Holy crap, FAQ.txt is reeeeally crufty.
It's loaded with pcgi information and other useless crap.
Gimme a minute to come up with a better patch.
I should make a branch for this.

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tim.peters at gmail

Jun 10, 2005, 12:40 PM

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Re: Zope 2.8 coming this weekend [In reply to]

[Paul Winkler]
> Holy crap, FAQ.txt is reeeeally crufty.
> It's loaded with pcgi information and other useless crap.
> Gimme a minute to come up with a better patch.
> I should make a branch for this.

I vote you check in changes instead, until you run out of time. Every
improvement will lessen confusion for countless multitudes until the
end of time. Perfection is overrated <0.9 wink>.

Thanks for doing it, BTW! Some things get so out of date that
paralysis is the natural reaction -- but a chain of small improvements
can turn that around.
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Jun 10, 2005, 1:04 PM

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Re: Zope 2.8 coming this weekend [In reply to]

On Fri, Jun 10, 2005 at 02:21:32PM -0400, Paul Winkler wrote:
> Done. Like I said, just trivial docs typos.

Yeah, but improvements are improvements!

On 6/10/05, Paul Winkler <pw_lists [at] slinkp> wrote:
> While I'm at it, anybody object to the attached patch to
> doc/FAQ.txt ?

I don't see a need to include the disclaimer about Python 2.4; I test
on 2.4, and use Zope 3 trunk with 2.4.1 all the time.

-Fred

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Jun 10, 2005, 1:07 PM

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Re: Zope 2.8 coming this weekend [In reply to]

On Fri, Jun 10, 2005 at 03:40:41PM -0400, Tim Peters wrote:
> [Paul Winkler]
> > Holy crap, FAQ.txt is reeeeally crufty.
> > It's loaded with pcgi information and other useless crap.
> > Gimme a minute to come up with a better patch.
> > I should make a branch for this.
>
> I vote you check in changes instead, until you run out of time.

OK, done on 2_8-branch and merged to trunk.

> Every
> improvement will lessen confusion for countless multitudes until the
> end of time. Perfection is overrated <0.9 wink>.

Yeah, e.g. even if we never get our butts in gear to "release" it,
Chris's 2.7 version of the Zope Book is still vastly better than
the 2.6 version (which was vastly better than 2.5, etc.)

> Thanks for doing it, BTW! Some things get so out of date that
> paralysis is the natural reaction -- but a chain of small improvements
> can turn that around.

Agreed. If I had nothing else to do I would poke around in that directory
some more. I think WEBSERVERS.txt could use some attention, and
probably others too.

Sadly there's other things in doc/ that could use the attention,
and I have to get back to Real Work now.

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Jun 10, 2005, 1:21 PM

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Re: Zope 2.8 coming this weekend [In reply to]

On Fri, Jun 10, 2005 at 04:04:48PM -0400, Fred Drake wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 10, 2005 at 02:21:32PM -0400, Paul Winkler wrote:
> > Done. Like I said, just trivial docs typos.
>
> Yeah, but improvements are improvements!
>
> On 6/10/05, Paul Winkler <pw_lists [at] slinkp> wrote:
> > While I'm at it, anybody object to the attached patch to
> > doc/FAQ.txt ?
>
> I don't see a need to include the disclaimer about Python 2.4; I test
> on 2.4, and use Zope 3 trunk with 2.4.1 all the time.

Maybe you do, but it really is a FAQ, and that's the consensus response
from the chorus every time it comes up on the main zope list, so I feel
justified :-)

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tim.peters at gmail

Jun 10, 2005, 1:31 PM

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Re: Zope 2.8 coming this weekend [In reply to]

[Fred Drake]
>> I don't see a need to include the disclaimer about Python 2.4; I test
>> on 2.4, and use Zope 3 trunk with 2.4.1 all the time.

[Paul Winkler]
> Maybe you do, but it really is a FAQ, and that's the consensus response
> from the chorus every time it comes up on the main zope list, so I feel
> justified :-)

It's the right answer, too. No "security audit" has been done against
Python 2.4 for Zope use yet, and Zope Corp won't officially bless 2.4
for use with Zope until that's been done.

Note that the story is different for ZODB: Python 2.4+ is officially
blessed for "standalone" ZODB use. This is one advantage of keeping
DTML out of the storage layer <wink>.
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