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y.2009 at wcm-solutions

Jul 5, 2009, 8:38 AM

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[dev] CMF 2.2 dependencies

Hi!

zope.app.component and zope.app.container are no longer part of Zope 2
trunk, but CMF currently has many imports from these two packages.

All the code needed by CMF has been moved to new packages (zope.site,
zope.browser, zope.container) that are part of Zope 2 trunk, but they
are not part of Zope 2.11.

Possible solutions:
-------------------

1.) Make Zope >= 2.12 required for CMF 2.2 and change all imports.

2.) Make Zope < 2.13 required for CMF 2.2.

3.) Add zope.app.component and zope.app.container to CMF dependencies.

4.) Re-add zope.app.component and zope.app.container to Zope 2 trunk
dependencies.

5.) Add a lot of try except imports and modify zcml files to make
imports from both locations working.

Any preferences or better ideas?

Cheers,

Yuppie

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tseaver at palladion

Jul 5, 2009, 8:47 AM

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Re: [dev] CMF 2.2 dependencies [In reply to]

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yuppie wrote:
> Hi!
>
>
> zope.app.component and zope.app.container are no longer part of Zope 2
> trunk, but CMF currently has many imports from these two packages.
>
> All the code needed by CMF has been moved to new packages (zope.site,
> zope.browser, zope.container) that are part of Zope 2 trunk, but they
> are not part of Zope 2.11.
>
>
> Possible solutions:
> -------------------
>
> 1.) Make Zope >= 2.12 required for CMF 2.2 and change all imports.
>
> 2.) Make Zope < 2.13 required for CMF 2.2.
>
> 3.) Add zope.app.component and zope.app.container to CMF dependencies.
>
> 4.) Re-add zope.app.component and zope.app.container to Zope 2 trunk
> dependencies.
>
> 5.) Add a lot of try except imports and modify zcml files to make
> imports from both locations working.
>
>
> Any preferences or better ideas?

I would change CMF 2.2 to import from the new locations, and require
Zope >= 2.12: I can see no benefit in trying to straddle with 2.11, and
Plone 4.0 is supposed to move to Zope 2.12 and CMF 2.2 this year.

Tres.
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y.2009 at wcm-solutions

Jul 6, 2009, 4:56 AM

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Re: [dev] CMF 2.2 dependencies [In reply to]

Tres Seaver wrote:
> yuppie wrote:
>>
>> Possible solutions:
>> -------------------
>>
>> 1.) Make Zope >= 2.12 required for CMF 2.2 and change all imports.
>>
>> 2.) Make Zope < 2.13 required for CMF 2.2.
>>
>> 3.) Add zope.app.component and zope.app.container to CMF dependencies.
>>
>> 4.) Re-add zope.app.component and zope.app.container to Zope 2 trunk
>> dependencies.
>>
>> 5.) Add a lot of try except imports and modify zcml files to make
>> imports from both locations working.
>>
>>
>> Any preferences or better ideas?
>
> I would change CMF 2.2 to import from the new locations, and require
> Zope >= 2.12: I can see no benefit in trying to straddle with 2.11, and
> Plone 4.0 is supposed to move to Zope 2.12 and CMF 2.2 this year.

Ok. I'm fine with that.

If there are no objections I'll make 'Zope2 >= 2.12.0b3dev' required and
remove obsolete BBB code.

Cheers, Yuppie

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jens at dataflake

Jul 6, 2009, 5:02 AM

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Re: [dev] CMF 2.2 dependencies [In reply to]

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On Jul 5, 2009, at 16:47 , Tres Seaver wrote:

> I would change CMF 2.2 to import from the new locations, and require
> Zope >= 2.12: I can see no benefit in trying to straddle with 2.11,
> and
> Plone 4.0 is supposed to move to Zope 2.12 and CMF 2.2 this year.

+1

jens

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charlie at begeistert

Jul 9, 2009, 11:15 AM

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Re: [dev] CMF 2.2 dependencies [In reply to]

Am 05.07.2009, 17:38 Uhr, schrieb yuppie <y.2009 [at] wcm-solutions>:

> 1.) Make Zope >= 2.12 required for CMF 2.2 and change all imports.
> 2.) Make Zope < 2.13 required for CMF 2.2.
> 3.) Add zope.app.component and zope.app.container to CMF dependencies.
> 4.) Re-add zope.app.component and zope.app.container to Zope 2 trunk
> dependencies.
> 5.) Add a lot of try except imports and modify zcml files to make
> imports from both locations working.

> Any preferences or better ideas?

As previously noted backwards compatability should be desirable but not at
too high a price. CMF 2.2 contains a lot of changes not least the
eggification and buildout support that stem largely from the changes in
Zope trunk so it is reasonable to make 2.12 the new baseline. However, it
was also previously stated that Plone 4 might not be able to based on
2.12. Tres seems to indicate that this is no longer going to be the case.
So +1 for 1) from me.

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davidglick at onenw

Jul 9, 2009, 11:22 AM

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Re: [dev] CMF 2.2 dependencies [In reply to]

On Jul 9, 2009, at 11:15 AM, Charlie Clark wrote:
> As previously noted backwards compatability should be desirable but
> not at
> too high a price. CMF 2.2 contains a lot of changes not least the
> eggification and buildout support that stem largely from the changes
> in
> Zope trunk so it is reasonable to make 2.12 the new baseline.
> However, it
> was also previously stated that Plone 4 might not be able to based on
> 2.12. Tres seems to indicate that this is no longer going to be the
> case.
> So +1 for 1) from me.

Just to put in a word from the Plone world...we have our Plone 4
branch running pretty well on Zope 2.12/CMF trunk (there are still a
few issues to work through, but we haven't run into any CMF-related
ones yet). So +1 from us too.

How soon can we expect a CMF 2.2 release? Are there blockers, aside
from a final Zope 2.12 release? Ideally we'd like to make an alpha
release of Plone 4 around the beginning of October (right, Eric?)

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tseaver at palladion

Jul 9, 2009, 11:41 AM

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Re: [dev] CMF 2.2 dependencies [In reply to]

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David Glick wrote:

> How soon can we expect a CMF 2.2 release? Are there blockers, aside
> from a final Zope 2.12 release? Ideally we'd like to make an alpha
> release of Plone 4 around the beginning of October (right, Eric?)

I don't know of any real blockers: we should be able to release
whenever Zope 2.12 does.

Tres.
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y.2009 at wcm-solutions

Jul 10, 2009, 4:38 AM

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Re: [dev] CMF 2.2 dependencies [In reply to]

Tres Seaver wrote:
> David Glick wrote:
>
>> How soon can we expect a CMF 2.2 release? Are there blockers, aside
>> from a final Zope 2.12 release? Ideally we'd like to make an alpha
>> release of Plone 4 around the beginning of October (right, Eric?)
>
> I don't know of any real blockers: we should be able to release
> whenever Zope 2.12 does.

I think these issues should be resolved before making a release:

https://bugs.launchpad.net/zope-cmf/+bug/161664 (add views)
https://bugs.launchpad.net/zope-cmf/+bug/308947 (_checkWorkflowAllowed)
https://bugs.launchpad.net/zope-cmf/+bug/397795 (icon_expr)

Cheers, Yuppie

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