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collin_fsb at yahoo

Apr 2, 2005, 5:20 AM

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Which OSes do NFSroot?

Hi,

I'm not sure whether xen-devel is the right place to post, so i posted
both to xen-devel and xen-users ;-)

Documentation tells it is possible to run domain 1 and others NFSrooted.
I'm not sure I really understood what it means!

For Linux, that's ok, i know and use nfsroot capabilities of the kernel.
But i was wondering about other OSes whose kernel don't support that option.
I didn't look at XEN source code and am not sure i'd understand its
principles if i read it!
From what I have understood, dom0 shares its device drivers with other
guest OSes, right? If that's the case, then i guess one might NFS link
to a distant OS image directory and then boot that OS NFSrooted, XEN
"simulating a local disk".
Actually, i'm MUCH concerned about MS Windows XP. I know ther's no
support currently for licence issues, but everybody (web sources) say
XEN 3.0 will enable running XP.
Do developpers think users will be to run XP NFSrooted? What about INT 13?

As well, i'm pretty curious as to know how to load XP kernel, as
NT/2000/XP boot process is much more different than unices'.
In fact, i was wondering if XenoXP developpers were bootstraping from a
partition image (with a MBR, a partition table, and a valid partition
boot sector allowing the ntdetect.com/ntldr process) as SYSLinux's
MemDisk does, or if the had some tricks to directly bootstrap
ntoskrnl.exe/hal.dll. Then again, what about INT 13?

To sum up: do xen developpers think it'll be possible to run XP
nfsrooted in release 3.x ?

Regards and a big 'congrats' to all of Xen developpers

CH COLLIN



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mark.williamson at cl

Apr 2, 2005, 8:01 AM

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Re: [Xen-devel] Which OSes do NFSroot? [In reply to]

> For Linux, that's ok, i know and use nfsroot capabilities of the kernel.
> But i was wondering about other OSes whose kernel don't support that
> option. I didn't look at XEN source code and am not sure i'd understand its
> principles if i read it!

The documentation means NFS root on guests that support it themselves. There
are other ways to access domain filesystems over the network, if desired.

> From what I have understood, dom0 shares its device drivers with other
> guest OSes, right? If that's the case, then i guess one might NFS link
> to a distant OS image directory and then boot that OS NFSrooted, XEN
> "simulating a local disk".

You might, for instance, connect dom0 to a remote disk image using a network
block device (ENBD, iSCSI, HyperSCSI...) and then export it to the guest as
it's root filesystem. Actual NFS isn't a particularly good fit here but
those other protocols would be fine.

> Actually, i'm MUCH concerned about MS Windows XP. I know ther's no
> support currently for licence issues, but everybody (web sources) say
> XEN 3.0 will enable running XP.

Xen 3.0 will enable running XP *on a machine with hardware virtualisation
assists* (i.e. using upcoming hardware from Intel / AMD - not available yet).

> Do developpers think users will be to run XP NFSrooted? What about INT 13?

Again, the best fit would probably be to store the filesystem on a network
block device and export it to the guest as an ordinary disk.

> As well, i'm pretty curious as to know how to load XP kernel, as
> NT/2000/XP boot process is much more different than unices'.
> In fact, i was wondering if XenoXP developpers were bootstraping from a
> partition image (with a MBR, a partition table, and a valid partition
> boot sector allowing the ntdetect.com/ntldr process) as SYSLinux's
> MemDisk does, or if the had some tricks to directly bootstrap
> ntoskrnl.exe/hal.dll. Then again, what about INT 13?

Support for running XP will use whole machine virtualisation enabled by
hardware virtualisation extensions. The tools will set up a virtual machine
with a complete set of virtual hardware (instead of the paravirtual machine
we run ported guests in). Then, you'll kick that virtual machine into life
and XP will boot thinking it's on real hardware.

> To sum up: do xen developpers think it'll be possible to run XP
> nfsrooted in release 3.x ?

Can it boot from its disk image stored on a network device, rather than
locally: yes. This won't let you do all the things you can with NFS (have
multiple writers to the filesystem) but it enables network transparency
(useful, e.g. for migration). Again, I don't think NFS would be a good fit
here.

> Regards and a big 'congrats' to all of Xen developpers

Cheers,
Mark

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