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todd.deshane at xen

Feb 15, 2011, 8:37 AM

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Re: [Xen-users] XCP and XenCenter

added xen-api to the CC

On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 4:12 PM, meesterlars <meesterlars [at] gmail> wrote:
>
> Good day. I've just today installed XCP 1.0 R2 in our test environment and
> I'm thrilled to finally be able to see my servers in XenCenter.
> Unfortunately, not all features appear to be functional. Things which stand
> out, so far are:
>
> Licences - 29 days and counting down
> Snapshots - no tab or means to create them
> VM protection policies - greyed out
> Performance tabs don't display information, instead throw an error
> Dynamic memory? Where? How?
>
> Those are the glaring issues. Are my findings congruent with what one should
> expect from XCP and XenCenter? I was under the impression we'd get feature
> parity with XenServer 5.6 FP1...
>
> Any comments?
> --
> View this message in context: http://xen.1045712.n5.nabble.com/XCP-and-XenCenter-tp3386189p3386189.html
> Sent from the Xen - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>
> _______________________________________________
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cristi at elvsoft

Feb 15, 2011, 8:55 AM

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RE: Re: [Xen-users] XCP and XenCenter [In reply to]

The features like Snapshots, Memory a.o. do not appear because XenCenter treats XCP as being a very old version of XenServer (XenServer 1.0 I believe).
If you install the XenServer 5.6fp1 drivers inside one VM and change the version of XCP from 1.0 to 5.6 all features will appear and everything will work. Unfortunately this is not a very good solution but just for testing you can search on the history for #xen-api on freenode in order to find out how to replace 1.0 with 5.6 in the xapi binary file. Other then that, installing the XenServer drivers inside an XCP VM should be easy.
Come on guys it's a simple fix, report different versions if Xencenter connects to xapi, please!

> -----Original Message-----
> From: xen-api-bounces [at] lists [mailto:xen-api-
> bounces [at] lists] On Behalf Of Todd Deshane
> Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2011 6:37 PM
> To: meesterlars
> Cc: xen-users [at] lists; xen-api [at] lists
> Subject: [Xen-API] Re: [Xen-users] XCP and XenCenter
>
> added xen-api to the CC
>
> On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 4:12 PM, meesterlars <meesterlars [at] gmail>
> wrote:
> >
> > Good day. I've just today installed XCP 1.0 R2 in our test environment
> > and I'm thrilled to finally be able to see my servers in XenCenter.
> > Unfortunately, not all features appear to be functional. Things which
> > stand out, so far are:
> >
> > Licences - 29 days and counting down
> > Snapshots - no tab or means to create them VM protection policies -
> > greyed out Performance tabs don't display information, instead throw
> > an error Dynamic memory? Where? How?
> >
> > Those are the glaring issues. Are my findings congruent with what one
> > should expect from XCP and XenCenter? I was under the impression we'd
> > get feature parity with XenServer 5.6 FP1...
> >
> > Any comments?
> > --
> > View this message in context:
> > http://xen.1045712.n5.nabble.com/XCP-and-XenCenter-
> tp3386189p3386189.h
> > tml Sent from the Xen - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Xen-users mailing list
> > Xen-users [at] lists
> > http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
> >
>
> _______________________________________________
> xen-api mailing list
> xen-api [at] lists
> http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api

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meesterlars at gmail

Feb 15, 2011, 11:58 AM

Post #3 of 23 (2719 views)
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Re: Re: [Xen-users] XCP and XenCenter [In reply to]

Thanks for the feedback, Tomoiaga. If what you say is true, I'm somewhat
disappointed, as I really expected complete compatibility with XenCenter.

I've not been able to find the info you referred to - replaying the version
in the xapi file - as I've never used freenode and don't really know where
to start. Care to give me a link?

On 15 February 2011 17:55, Tomoiaga Cristian <cristi [at] elvsoft> wrote:

> The features like Snapshots, Memory a.o. do not appear because XenCenter
> treats XCP as being a very old version of XenServer (XenServer 1.0 I
> believe).
> If you install the XenServer 5.6fp1 drivers inside one VM and change the
> version of XCP from 1.0 to 5.6 all features will appear and everything will
> work. Unfortunately this is not a very good solution but just for testing
> you can search on the history for #xen-api on freenode in order to find out
> how to replace 1.0 with 5.6 in the xapi binary file. Other then that,
> installing the XenServer drivers inside an XCP VM should be easy.
> Come on guys it's a simple fix, report different versions if Xencenter
> connects to xapi, please!
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: xen-api-bounces [at] lists [mailto:xen-api-
> > bounces [at] lists] On Behalf Of Todd Deshane
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2011 6:37 PM
> > To: meesterlars
> > Cc: xen-users [at] lists; xen-api [at] lists
> > Subject: [Xen-API] Re: [Xen-users] XCP and XenCenter
> >
> > added xen-api to the CC
> >
> > On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 4:12 PM, meesterlars <meesterlars [at] gmail>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Good day. I've just today installed XCP 1.0 R2 in our test environment
> > > and I'm thrilled to finally be able to see my servers in XenCenter.
> > > Unfortunately, not all features appear to be functional. Things which
> > > stand out, so far are:
> > >
> > > Licences - 29 days and counting down
> > > Snapshots - no tab or means to create them VM protection policies -
> > > greyed out Performance tabs don't display information, instead throw
> > > an error Dynamic memory? Where? How?
> > >
> > > Those are the glaring issues. Are my findings congruent with what one
> > > should expect from XCP and XenCenter? I was under the impression we'd
> > > get feature parity with XenServer 5.6 FP1...
> > >
> > > Any comments?
> > > --
> > > View this message in context:
> > > http://xen.1045712.n5.nabble.com/XCP-and-XenCenter-
> > tp3386189p3386189.h
> > > tml Sent from the Xen - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Xen-users mailing list
> > > Xen-users [at] lists
> > > http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
> > >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > xen-api mailing list
> > xen-api [at] lists
> > http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api
>

meesterlars at gmail

Feb 15, 2011, 12:32 PM

Post #4 of 23 (2716 views)
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Re: Re: [Xen-users] XCP and XenCenter [In reply to]

I appreciate you getting back to me, Todd.

Right now XenCenter integration is severely limited, feature-wise. I
sincerely hope improvements are made soon, or a workaround such as that
alluded to by Tomoiaga is provided.

Thanks for your time. And for an otherwise incredible product.

On 15 February 2011 21:22, Todd Deshane <deshantm [at] gmail> wrote:

> Hi Lars,
>
> I'm pretty sure the XenCenter compatibility is in the works. We might
> not have all the kinks out by 1.0, but Jon should be able to confirm.
>
> Also, I don't see where the IRC logs are stored either. I asked in the
> #xen-api channel and will reply back if I hear anything.
>
> We are in the process of documenting differences between XCP and XenServer
> here:
> http://wiki.xensource.com/xenwiki/XCP_Docs
>
> Thanks for the feedback and if I hear any news I'll write back either
> directly to you or this thread.
>
> Thanks,
> Todd
>
> On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 2:58 PM, Lars Seeliger <meesterlars [at] gmail>
> wrote:
> > Thanks for the feedback, Tomoiaga. If what you say is true, I'm somewhat
> > disappointed, as I really expected complete compatibility with XenCenter.
> >
> > I've not been able to find the info you referred to - replaying the
> version
> > in the xapi file - as I've never used freenode and don't really know
> where
> > to start. Care to give me a link?
> >
> > On 15 February 2011 17:55, Tomoiaga Cristian <cristi [at] elvsoft> wrote:
> >>
> >> The features like Snapshots, Memory a.o. do not appear because XenCenter
> >> treats XCP as being a very old version of XenServer (XenServer 1.0 I
> >> believe).
> >> If you install the XenServer 5.6fp1 drivers inside one VM and change the
> >> version of XCP from 1.0 to 5.6 all features will appear and everything
> will
> >> work. Unfortunately this is not a very good solution but just for
> testing
> >> you can search on the history for #xen-api on freenode in order to find
> out
> >> how to replace 1.0 with 5.6 in the xapi binary file. Other then that,
> >> installing the XenServer drivers inside an XCP VM should be easy.
> >> Come on guys it's a simple fix, report different versions if Xencenter
> >> connects to xapi, please!
> >>
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: xen-api-bounces [at] lists [mailto:xen-api-
> >> > bounces [at] lists] On Behalf Of Todd Deshane
> >> > Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2011 6:37 PM
> >> > To: meesterlars
> >> > Cc: xen-users [at] lists; xen-api [at] lists
> >> > Subject: [Xen-API] Re: [Xen-users] XCP and XenCenter
> >> >
> >> > added xen-api to the CC
> >> >
> >> > On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 4:12 PM, meesterlars <meesterlars [at] gmail>
> >> > wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > Good day. I've just today installed XCP 1.0 R2 in our test
> environment
> >> > > and I'm thrilled to finally be able to see my servers in XenCenter.
> >> > > Unfortunately, not all features appear to be functional. Things
> which
> >> > > stand out, so far are:
> >> > >
> >> > > Licences - 29 days and counting down
> >> > > Snapshots - no tab or means to create them VM protection policies -
> >> > > greyed out Performance tabs don't display information, instead throw
> >> > > an error Dynamic memory? Where? How?
> >> > >
> >> > > Those are the glaring issues. Are my findings congruent with what
> one
> >> > > should expect from XCP and XenCenter? I was under the impression
> we'd
> >> > > get feature parity with XenServer 5.6 FP1...
> >> > >
> >> > > Any comments?
> >> > > --
> >> > > View this message in context:
> >> > > http://xen.1045712.n5.nabble.com/XCP-and-XenCenter-
> >> > tp3386189p3386189.h
> >> > > tml Sent from the Xen - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
> >> > >
> >> > > _______________________________________________
> >> > > Xen-users mailing list
> >> > > Xen-users [at] lists
> >> > > http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
> >> > >
> >> >
> >> > _______________________________________________
> >> > xen-api mailing list
> >> > xen-api [at] lists
> >> > http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > xen-api mailing list
> > xen-api [at] lists
> > http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Todd Deshane
> http://todddeshane.net
> http://runningxen.com
>

cristi at elvsoft

Feb 15, 2011, 1:57 PM

Post #5 of 23 (2711 views)
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RE: Re: [Xen-users] XCP and XenCenter [In reply to]

http://www.xensemaking.com/misc/patchxcp.sh
Will change 1.0 with 5.6 in xapi, just run it on each of your XCP nodes and restart xapi.

You will have to install the XenServer drivers in VMs after that, to be able to suspend, migrate a.s.o.
To do that, you will need to download the xs-tools.iso from XenServer 5.6fp1 to your XCP nodes and replace the original xs-tools.iso and install the new drivers.

Regarding the version change for XCP, that should not be an issue, but I am not sure about the XenServer drivers in XCP VMs. I am playing around with them for some time now and they work ok but an expert should answer if it’s ok to use them for production or not since XenServer and XCP are different products.

From: xen-api-bounces [at] lists [mailto:xen-api-bounces [at] lists] On Behalf Of Lars Seeliger
Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2011 10:32 PM
To: deshantm [at] gmail
Cc: xen-api [at] lists
Subject: Re: [Xen-API] Re: [Xen-users] XCP and XenCenter

I appreciate you getting back to me, Todd.

Right now XenCenter integration is severely limited, feature-wise. I sincerely hope improvements are made soon, or a workaround such as that alluded to by Tomoiaga is provided.

Thanks for your time. And for an otherwise incredible product.
On 15 February 2011 21:22, Todd Deshane <deshantm [at] gmail> wrote:
Hi Lars,

I'm pretty sure the XenCenter compatibility is in the works. We might
not have all the kinks out by 1.0, but Jon should be able to confirm.

Also, I don't see where the IRC logs are stored either. I asked in the
#xen-api channel and will reply back if I hear anything.

We are in the process of documenting differences between XCP and XenServer here:
http://wiki.xensource.com/xenwiki/XCP_Docs

Thanks for the feedback and if I hear any news I'll write back either
directly to you or this thread.

Thanks,
Todd

meesterlars at gmail

Feb 16, 2011, 1:54 AM

Post #6 of 23 (2710 views)
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Re: Re: [Xen-users] XCP and XenCenter [In reply to]

Thanks a million, Tomoiaga!

I'm still unable to configure VM Protection Policies but, other than that, I
think everything works. Nice!

On 15 February 2011 22:57, Tomoiaga Cristian <cristi [at] elvsoft> wrote:

> http://www.xensemaking.com/misc/patchxcp.sh
> Will change 1.0 with 5.6 in xapi, just run it on each of your XCP nodes and
> restart xapi.
>
> You will have to install the XenServer drivers in VMs after that, to be
> able to suspend, migrate a.s.o.
> To do that, you will need to download the xs-tools.iso from XenServer
> 5.6fp1 to your XCP nodes and replace the original xs-tools.iso and install
> the new drivers.
>
> Regarding the version change for XCP, that should not be an issue, but I am
> not sure about the XenServer drivers in XCP VMs. I am playing around with
> them for some time now and they work ok but an expert should answer if it’s
> ok to use them for production or not since XenServer and XCP are different
> products.
>
>
>
>
> From: xen-api-bounces [at] lists [mailto:
> xen-api-bounces [at] lists] On Behalf Of Lars Seeliger
> Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2011 10:32 PM
> To: deshantm [at] gmail
> Cc: xen-api [at] lists
> Subject: Re: [Xen-API] Re: [Xen-users] XCP and XenCenter
>
> I appreciate you getting back to me, Todd.
>
> Right now XenCenter integration is severely limited, feature-wise. I
> sincerely hope improvements are made soon, or a workaround such as that
> alluded to by Tomoiaga is provided.
>
> Thanks for your time. And for an otherwise incredible product.
> On 15 February 2011 21:22, Todd Deshane <deshantm [at] gmail> wrote:
> Hi Lars,
>
> I'm pretty sure the XenCenter compatibility is in the works. We might
> not have all the kinks out by 1.0, but Jon should be able to confirm.
>
> Also, I don't see where the IRC logs are stored either. I asked in the
> #xen-api channel and will reply back if I hear anything.
>
> We are in the process of documenting differences between XCP and XenServer
> here:
> http://wiki.xensource.com/xenwiki/XCP_Docs
>
> Thanks for the feedback and if I hear any news I'll write back either
> directly to you or this thread.
>
> Thanks,
> Todd
>
>

Jonathan.Ludlam at eu

Feb 16, 2011, 8:37 AM

Post #7 of 23 (2726 views)
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Re: Re: [Xen-users] XCP and XenCenter [In reply to]

The problems with XenCenter are due to it doing explicit version checks to see whether to enable particular features. We toyed with the idea of internally pretending that XCP had the current XS version to work around this, but it was too gross a hack. It's effectively equivalent to the patch linked to by Tomoiaga (although using a more recent version number).

One of the things I'm working on is to try to minimise the places where this version number gets baked in to both XenServer and XCP. I expect that by the release of XCP 1.1 (probably August sometime), XenCenter will be able to use most XCP features.

For now, XenCenter kinda works, and if you're willing to do the patch below (or recompile xapi to use a different version number), it'll work better. Don't forget that XenCenter is *not* part of XCP currently, and the team that hack on it have no spare resource to commit to supporting XCP alongside XenServer, so there will not be any guarantees about how well it works. In particular, I suspect that they'll always be checking for licenses, having HA / work load balancing / whatever else dialogs, and various other things that don't make sense for XCP.

Regarding using the xs-tools iso from XenServer, there should be no problems there.

Hope this clarifies things,

Jon

On 16 Feb 2011, at 09:54, Lars Seeliger wrote:

Thanks a million, Tomoiaga!

I'm still unable to configure VM Protection Policies but, other than that, I think everything works. Nice!

On 15 February 2011 22:57, Tomoiaga Cristian <cristi [at] elvsoft<mailto:cristi [at] elvsoft>> wrote:
http://www.xensemaking.com/misc/patchxcp.sh
Will change 1.0 with 5.6 in xapi, just run it on each of your XCP nodes and restart xapi.

You will have to install the XenServer drivers in VMs after that, to be able to suspend, migrate a.s.o.
To do that, you will need to download the xs-tools.iso from XenServer 5.6fp1 to your XCP nodes and replace the original xs-tools.iso and install the new drivers.

Regarding the version change for XCP, that should not be an issue, but I am not sure about the XenServer drivers in XCP VMs. I am playing around with them for some time now and they work ok but an expert should answer if it�s ok to use them for production or not since XenServer and XCP are different products.

From: xen-api-bounces [at] lists<mailto:xen-api-bounces [at] lists> [mailto:xen-api-bounces [at] lists<mailto:xen-api-bounces [at] lists>] On Behalf Of Lars Seeliger
Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2011 10:32 PM
To: deshantm [at] gmail<mailto:deshantm [at] gmail>
Cc: xen-api [at] lists<mailto:xen-api [at] lists>
Subject: Re: [Xen-API] Re: [Xen-users] XCP and XenCenter

I appreciate you getting back to me, Todd.

Right now XenCenter integration is severely limited, feature-wise. I sincerely hope improvements are made soon, or a workaround such as that alluded to by Tomoiaga is provided.

Thanks for your time. And for an otherwise incredible product.
On 15 February 2011 21:22, Todd Deshane <deshantm [at] gmail<mailto:deshantm [at] gmail>> wrote:
Hi Lars,

I'm pretty sure the XenCenter compatibility is in the works. We might
not have all the kinks out by 1.0, but Jon should be able to confirm.

Also, I don't see where the IRC logs are stored either. I asked in the
#xen-api channel and will reply back if I hear anything.

We are in the process of documenting differences between XCP and XenServer here:
http://wiki.xensource.com/xenwiki/XCP_Docs

Thanks for the feedback and if I hear any news I'll write back either
directly to you or this thread.

Thanks,
Todd

<ATT00001..txt>

adrian at simpliq

Feb 16, 2011, 8:58 AM

Post #8 of 23 (2709 views)
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RE: Re: [Xen-users] XCP and XenCenter [In reply to]

Hi,

Why don't you move the version in some config file. This should be a simple hack and those who wish to change the version to take advantage of all the features in XenCenter would be able to do it without changing a binary file or recompiling.

It would also make it easier to change back in the future when XenCenter will (hopefully) enable features by other means then version checks.

Best regards,
Adrian Costin

From: xen-api-bounces [at] lists [mailto:xen-api-bounces [at] lists] On Behalf Of Jonathan Ludlam
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 6:37 PM
To: Lars Seeliger
Cc: xen-api [at] lists
Subject: Re: [Xen-API] Re: [Xen-users] XCP and XenCenter

The problems with XenCenter are due to it doing explicit version checks to see whether to enable particular features. We toyed with the idea of internally pretending that XCP had the current XS version to work around this, but it was too gross a hack. It's effectively equivalent to the patch linked to by Tomoiaga (although using a more recent version number).

One of the things I'm working on is to try to minimise the places where this version number gets baked in to both XenServer and XCP. I expect that by the release of XCP 1.1 (probably August sometime), XenCenter will be able to use most XCP features.

For now, XenCenter kinda works, and if you're willing to do the patch below (or recompile xapi to use a different version number), it'll work better. Don't forget that XenCenter is *not* part of XCP currently, and the team that hack on it have no spare resource to commit to supporting XCP alongside XenServer, so there will not be any guarantees about how well it works. In particular, I suspect that they'll always be checking for licenses, having HA / work load balancing / whatever else dialogs, and various other things that don't make sense for XCP.

Regarding using the xs-tools iso from XenServer, there should be no problems there.

Hope this clarifies things,

Jon

On 16 Feb 2011, at 09:54, Lars Seeliger wrote:

Thanks a million, Tomoiaga!

I'm still unable to configure VM Protection Policies but, other than that, I think everything works. Nice!
On 15 February 2011 22:57, Tomoiaga Cristian <cristi [at] elvsoft<mailto:cristi [at] elvsoft>> wrote:

http://www.xensemaking.com/misc/patchxcp.sh
Will change 1.0 with 5.6 in xapi, just run it on each of your XCP nodes and restart xapi.

You will have to install the XenServer drivers in VMs after that, to be able to suspend, migrate a.s.o.
To do that, you will need to download the xs-tools.iso from XenServer 5.6fp1 to your XCP nodes and replace the original xs-tools.iso and install the new drivers.

Regarding the version change for XCP, that should not be an issue, but I am not sure about the XenServer drivers in XCP VMs. I am playing around with them for some time now and they work ok but an expert should answer if it's ok to use them for production or not since XenServer and XCP are different products.

From: xen-api-bounces [at] lists<mailto:xen-api-bounces [at] lists> [mailto:xen-api-bounces [at] lists<mailto:xen-api-bounces [at] lists>] On Behalf Of Lars Seeliger
Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2011 10:32 PM
To: deshantm [at] gmail<mailto:deshantm [at] gmail>
Cc: xen-api [at] lists<mailto:xen-api [at] lists>
Subject: Re: [Xen-API] Re: [Xen-users] XCP and XenCenter

I appreciate you getting back to me, Todd.

Right now XenCenter integration is severely limited, feature-wise. I sincerely hope improvements are made soon, or a workaround such as that alluded to by Tomoiaga is provided.

Thanks for your time. And for an otherwise incredible product.
On 15 February 2011 21:22, Todd Deshane <deshantm [at] gmail<mailto:deshantm [at] gmail>> wrote:
Hi Lars,

I'm pretty sure the XenCenter compatibility is in the works. We might
not have all the kinks out by 1.0, but Jon should be able to confirm.

Also, I don't see where the IRC logs are stored either. I asked in the
#xen-api channel and will reply back if I hear anything.

We are in the process of documenting differences between XCP and XenServer here:
http://wiki.xensource.com/xenwiki/XCP_Docs

Thanks for the feedback and if I hear any news I'll write back either
directly to you or this thread.

Thanks,
Todd

<ATT00001..txt>

meesterlars at gmail

Feb 16, 2011, 10:15 AM

Post #9 of 23 (2712 views)
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Re: Re: [Xen-users] XCP and XenCenter [In reply to]

Yup, that definitely clears things up quite a bit, Jon.

Will a XenCenter compatibility matrix be made available when XCP 1.0
documentation goes live? As mentioned before, I'm quite pleased with
compatibility now after having run the patch script, though an interface to
VM Protection would be nice.

Could you perhaps comment on what happens at the end of the 30 day "licence"
XenCenter believes my XCP hosts are using? Will features like Dynamic Memory
suddenly refuse to work, or will I be able to continue managing XCP through
XenCenter as I do now?

I've noticed the 5.6 xstools appear to work fine though, for the love of
God, could we please get the Citrix VSS Provider to function, somehow? This
has been unreliable since XS 5.6... Sorry, just needed to vent a little
frustration there; I'll ask for help in xen-users :p

Thanks a ton for the fantastic RC, btw. Loving XCP!

On 16 February 2011 17:37, Jonathan Ludlam <Jonathan.Ludlam [at] eu>wrote:

> The problems with XenCenter are due to it doing explicit version checks to
> see whether to enable particular features. We toyed with the idea of
> internally pretending that XCP had the current XS version to work around
> this, but it was too gross a hack. It's effectively equivalent to the patch
> linked to by Tomoiaga (although using a more recent version number).
>
> One of the things I'm working on is to try to minimise the places where
> this version number gets baked in to both XenServer and XCP. I expect that
> by the release of XCP 1.1 (probably August sometime), XenCenter will be able
> to use most XCP features.
>
> For now, XenCenter kinda works, and if you're willing to do the patch below
> (or recompile xapi to use a different version number), it'll work better.
> Don't forget that XenCenter is *not* part of XCP currently, and the team
> that hack on it have no spare resource to commit to supporting XCP alongside
> XenServer, so there will not be any guarantees about how well it works. In
> particular, I suspect that they'll always be checking for licenses, having
> HA / work load balancing / whatever else dialogs, and various other things
> that don't make sense for XCP.
>
> Regarding using the xs-tools iso from XenServer, there should be no
> problems there.
>
> Hope this clarifies things,
>
> Jon
>
>
>
>
>
> On 16 Feb 2011, at 09:54, Lars Seeliger wrote:
>
> Thanks a million, Tomoiaga!
>
> I'm still unable to configure VM Protection Policies but, other than that,
> I think everything works. Nice!
>
> On 15 February 2011 22:57, Tomoiaga Cristian <cristi [at] elvsoft> wrote:
>
>> http://www.xensemaking.com/misc/patchxcp.sh
>> Will change 1.0 with 5.6 in xapi, just run it on each of your XCP nodes
>> and restart xapi.
>>
>> You will have to install the XenServer drivers in VMs after that, to be
>> able to suspend, migrate a.s.o.
>> To do that, you will need to download the xs-tools.iso from XenServer
>> 5.6fp1 to your XCP nodes and replace the original xs-tools.iso and install
>> the new drivers.
>>
>> Regarding the version change for XCP, that should not be an issue, but I
>> am not sure about the XenServer drivers in XCP VMs. I am playing around with
>> them for some time now and they work ok but an expert should answer if it’s
>> ok to use them for production or not since XenServer and XCP are different
>> products.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> From: xen-api-bounces [at] lists [mailto:
>> xen-api-bounces [at] lists] On Behalf Of Lars Seeliger
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2011 10:32 PM
>> To: deshantm [at] gmail
>> Cc: xen-api [at] lists
>> Subject: Re: [Xen-API] Re: [Xen-users] XCP and XenCenter
>>
>> I appreciate you getting back to me, Todd.
>>
>> Right now XenCenter integration is severely limited, feature-wise. I
>> sincerely hope improvements are made soon, or a workaround such as that
>> alluded to by Tomoiaga is provided.
>>
>> Thanks for your time. And for an otherwise incredible product.
>> On 15 February 2011 21:22, Todd Deshane <deshantm [at] gmail> wrote:
>> Hi Lars,
>>
>> I'm pretty sure the XenCenter compatibility is in the works. We might
>> not have all the kinks out by 1.0, but Jon should be able to confirm.
>>
>> Also, I don't see where the IRC logs are stored either. I asked in the
>> #xen-api channel and will reply back if I hear anything.
>>
>> We are in the process of documenting differences between XCP and XenServer
>> here:
>> http://wiki.xensource.com/xenwiki/XCP_Docs
>>
>> Thanks for the feedback and if I hear any news I'll write back either
>> directly to you or this thread.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Todd
>>
>>
> <ATT00001..txt>
>
>
>

cristi at elvsoft

Feb 16, 2011, 10:26 AM

Post #10 of 23 (2709 views)
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RE: Re: [Xen-users] XCP and XenCenter [In reply to]

I doubt there is any interest in XenCenter at this moment, as Jon mentioned, XenCenter belongs to XenServer.
VM Protection can be achived but that will break several licenses since you need to use software from XenServer (enterprise I believe)
At the end of the 30 days nothing will happen, everything will continue to work ok (all features).

Regards,
Tomoiaga

meesterlars at gmail

Feb 16, 2011, 10:27 AM

Post #11 of 23 (2703 views)
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Re: Re: [Xen-users] XCP and XenCenter [In reply to]

As VM Protection is a feature of XCP, I doubt any licences will be
contravened using it. Good to hear after 30 days my servers will remain
XenCenter-configurable. Lovely stuff!

Thanks for your help and comments, guys.

On 16 February 2011 19:26, Tomoiaga Cristian <cristi [at] elvsoft> wrote:

> I doubt there is any interest in XenCenter at this moment, as Jon
> mentioned, XenCenter belongs to XenServer.
> VM Protection can be achived but that will break several licenses since you
> need to use software from XenServer (enterprise I believe)
> At the end of the 30 days nothing will happen, everything will continue to
> work ok (all features).
>
> Regards,
> Tomoiaga
>

rushikesh.jadhav at esds

Feb 16, 2011, 10:33 AM

Post #12 of 23 (2712 views)
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Re: Re: [Xen-users] XCP and XenCenter [In reply to]

Yes, all features work good just a nasty popup saying the License
Expired. Its not that annoying but makes uneasy sometimes.

Regards,
Rushikesh

On Wednesday 16 February 2011 11:56 PM, Tomoiaga Cristian wrote:
> I doubt there is any interest in XenCenter at this moment, as Jon mentioned, XenCenter belongs to XenServer.
> VM Protection can be achived but that will break several licenses since you need to use software from XenServer (enterprise I believe)
> At the end of the 30 days nothing will happen, everything will continue to work ok (all features).
>
> Regards,
> Tomoiaga
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> xen-api mailing list
> xen-api [at] lists
> http://lists.xensource.com/mailman/listinfo/xen-api
>

cristi at elvsoft

Feb 16, 2011, 10:40 AM

Post #13 of 23 (2703 views)
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RE: Re: [Xen-users] XCP and XenCenter [In reply to]

Well, the XenCenter issue is partially solved now anyway.
A way bigger issue is being able to throttle iops/vdi. Seems nobody wants to answer if it’s possible (I am sure it is) and if there are any plans to implement something.
VMWare already has this and I am amazed why this is treated as not being important since almost everyone has problems when one VM creates too many/sepcific IOPS.

Regards,
Tomoiaga

meesterlars at gmail

Feb 16, 2011, 12:32 PM

Post #14 of 23 (2711 views)
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Re: Re: [Xen-users] XCP and XenCenter [In reply to]

XS 5.6 FP1 features QoS for virtual disks. Could this be what you're looking
for? Surely this is also available in XCP.

http://docs.vmd.citrix.com/XenServer/5.6.0fp1/1.0/en_gb/reference.html#disk_qos

On 16 February 2011 19:40, Tomoiaga Cristian <cristi [at] elvsoft> wrote:

> Well, the XenCenter issue is partially solved now anyway.
> A way bigger issue is being able to throttle iops/vdi. Seems nobody wants
> to answer if it’s possible (I am sure it is) and if there are any plans to
> implement something.
> VMWare already has this and I am amazed why this is treated as not being
> important since almost everyone has problems when one VM creates too
> many/sepcific IOPS.
>
> Regards,
> Tomoiaga
>
>

cristi at elvsoft

Feb 16, 2011, 12:39 PM

Post #15 of 23 (2711 views)
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RE: Re: [Xen-users] XCP and XenCenter [In reply to]

QoS doesn’t do much good. I need to be able to set an upper limit of reads/writes ops.
QoS won't stop a VM from bringing down an entire storage.

Regards,
Tomoiaga

From: Lars Seeliger [mailto:meesterlars [at] gmail]
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 10:33 PM
To: Tomoiaga Cristian
Cc: Jonathan Ludlam; xen-api [at] lists
Subject: Re: [Xen-API] Re: [Xen-users] XCP and XenCenter

XS 5.6 FP1 features QoS for virtual disks. Could this be what you're looking for? Surely this is also available in XCP.

http://docs.vmd.citrix.com/XenServer/5.6.0fp1/1.0/en_gb/reference.html#disk_qos
On 16 February 2011 19:40, Tomoiaga Cristian <cristi [at] elvsoft> wrote:
Well, the XenCenter issue is partially solved now anyway.
A way bigger issue is being able to throttle iops/vdi. Seems nobody wants to answer if it’s possible (I am sure it is) and if there are any plans to implement something.
VMWare already has this and I am amazed why this is treated as not being important since almost everyone has problems when one VM creates too many/sepcific IOPS.

Regards,
Tomoiaga

Jonathan.Ludlam at eu

Feb 16, 2011, 6:25 PM

Post #16 of 23 (2715 views)
Permalink

Re: Re: [Xen-users] XCP and XenCenter [In reply to]

I know that this is being looked into at the moment. Not sure if it'll make the next release of XCP or not.

Jon

Sent from my iPad

On 16 Feb 2011, at 20:35, "Tomoiaga Cristian" <cristi [at] elvsoft> wrote:

> QoS doesn’t do much good. I need to be able to set an upper limit of reads/writes ops.
> QoS won't stop a VM from bringing down an entire storage.
>
> Regards,
> Tomoiaga
>
>
> From: Lars Seeliger [mailto:meesterlars [at] gmail]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 10:33 PM
> To: Tomoiaga Cristian
> Cc: Jonathan Ludlam; xen-api [at] lists
> Subject: Re: [Xen-API] Re: [Xen-users] XCP and XenCenter
>
> XS 5.6 FP1 features QoS for virtual disks. Could this be what you're looking for? Surely this is also available in XCP.
>
> http://docs.vmd.citrix.com/XenServer/5.6.0fp1/1.0/en_gb/reference.html#disk_qos
> On 16 February 2011 19:40, Tomoiaga Cristian <cristi [at] elvsoft> wrote:
> Well, the XenCenter issue is partially solved now anyway.
> A way bigger issue is being able to throttle iops/vdi. Seems nobody wants to answer if it’s possible (I am sure it is) and if there are any plans to implement something.
> VMWare already has this and I am amazed why this is treated as not being important since almost everyone has problems when one VM creates too many/sepcific IOPS.
>
> Regards,
> Tomoiaga
>

Jonathan.Ludlam at eu

Feb 17, 2011, 4:16 AM

Post #17 of 23 (2728 views)
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Re: Re: [Xen-users] XCP and XenCenter [In reply to]

Good idea. I'm compiling a new XCP RC now, and will post it later.

The config file is /etc/xensource/xapi_version_override which should contain a single line containing the required version number, and the version number to set it to for maximum XenCenter compatibility is '5.6.199'

Jon

On 16 Feb 2011, at 16:58, Adrian Costin wrote:

Hi,

Why don�t you move the version in some config file. This should be a simple hack and those who wish to change the version to take advantage of all the features in XenCenter would be able to do it without changing a binary file or recompiling.

It would also make it easier to change back in the future when XenCenter will (hopefully) enable features by other means then version checks.

Best regards,
Adrian Costin

From: xen-api-bounces [at] lists<mailto:xen-api-bounces [at] lists> [mailto:xen-api-bounces [at] lists] On Behalf Of Jonathan Ludlam
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 6:37 PM
To: Lars Seeliger
Cc: xen-api [at] lists<mailto:xen-api [at] lists>
Subject: Re: [Xen-API] Re: [Xen-users] XCP and XenCenter

The problems with XenCenter are due to it doing explicit version checks to see whether to enable particular features. We toyed with the idea of internally pretending that XCP had the current XS version to work around this, but it was too gross a hack. It's effectively equivalent to the patch linked to by Tomoiaga (although using a more recent version number).

One of the things I'm working on is to try to minimise the places where this version number gets baked in to both XenServer and XCP. I expect that by the release of XCP 1.1 (probably August sometime), XenCenter will be able to use most XCP features.

For now, XenCenter kinda works, and if you're willing to do the patch below (or recompile xapi to use a different version number), it'll work better. Don't forget that XenCenter is *not* part of XCP currently, and the team that hack on it have no spare resource to commit to supporting XCP alongside XenServer, so there will not be any guarantees about how well it works. In particular, I suspect that they'll always be checking for licenses, having HA / work load balancing / whatever else dialogs, and various other things that don't make sense for XCP.

Regarding using the xs-tools iso from XenServer, there should be no problems there.

Hope this clarifies things,

Jon

On 16 Feb 2011, at 09:54, Lars Seeliger wrote:

Thanks a million, Tomoiaga!

I'm still unable to configure VM Protection Policies but, other than that, I think everything works. Nice!
On 15 February 2011 22:57, Tomoiaga Cristian <cristi [at] elvsoft<mailto:cristi [at] elvsoft>> wrote:

http://www.xensemaking.com/misc/patchxcp.sh
Will change 1.0 with 5.6 in xapi, just run it on each of your XCP nodes and restart xapi.

You will have to install the XenServer drivers in VMs after that, to be able to suspend, migrate a.s.o.
To do that, you will need to download the xs-tools.iso from XenServer 5.6fp1 to your XCP nodes and replace the original xs-tools.iso and install the new drivers.

Regarding the version change for XCP, that should not be an issue, but I am not sure about the XenServer drivers in XCP VMs. I am playing around with them for some time now and they work ok but an expert should answer if it�s ok to use them for production or not since XenServer and XCP are different products.

From: xen-api-bounces [at] lists<mailto:xen-api-bounces [at] lists> [mailto:xen-api-bounces [at] lists<mailto:xen-api-bounces [at] lists>] On Behalf Of Lars Seeliger
Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2011 10:32 PM
To: deshantm [at] gmail<mailto:deshantm [at] gmail>
Cc: xen-api [at] lists<mailto:xen-api [at] lists>
Subject: Re: [Xen-API] Re: [Xen-users] XCP and XenCenter

I appreciate you getting back to me, Todd.

Right now XenCenter integration is severely limited, feature-wise. I sincerely hope improvements are made soon, or a workaround such as that alluded to by Tomoiaga is provided.

Thanks for your time. And for an otherwise incredible product.
On 15 February 2011 21:22, Todd Deshane <deshantm [at] gmail<mailto:deshantm [at] gmail>> wrote:
Hi Lars,

I'm pretty sure the XenCenter compatibility is in the works. We might
not have all the kinks out by 1.0, but Jon should be able to confirm.

Also, I don't see where the IRC logs are stored either. I asked in the
#xen-api channel and will reply back if I hear anything.

We are in the process of documenting differences between XCP and XenServer here:
http://wiki.xensource.com/xenwiki/XCP_Docs

Thanks for the feedback and if I hear any news I'll write back either
directly to you or this thread.

Thanks,
Todd

<ATT00001..txt>

<ATT00001..txt>

Jonathan.Ludlam at eu

Feb 18, 2011, 8:08 AM

Post #18 of 23 (2686 views)
Permalink

Re: Re: [Xen-users] XCP and XenCenter [In reply to]

rc3 is up:

http://www.xen.org/files/XenCloud/Software/xcp-1.0-rc3

New features: if you create a file '/etc/xensource/xapi_version_override' with contents, for example '5.6.199', XenCenter behaves more nicely when it's connected.

Jon

On 16 Feb 2011, at 16:58, Adrian Costin wrote:

Hi,

Why don�t you move the version in some config file. This should be a simple hack and those who wish to change the version to take advantage of all the features in XenCenter would be able to do it without changing a binary file or recompiling.

It would also make it easier to change back in the future when XenCenter will (hopefully) enable features by other means then version checks.

Best regards,
Adrian Costin

From: xen-api-bounces [at] lists<mailto:xen-api-bounces [at] lists> [mailto:xen-api-bounces [at] lists] On Behalf Of Jonathan Ludlam
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 6:37 PM
To: Lars Seeliger
Cc: xen-api [at] lists<mailto:xen-api [at] lists>
Subject: Re: [Xen-API] Re: [Xen-users] XCP and XenCenter

The problems with XenCenter are due to it doing explicit version checks to see whether to enable particular features. We toyed with the idea of internally pretending that XCP had the current XS version to work around this, but it was too gross a hack. It's effectively equivalent to the patch linked to by Tomoiaga (although using a more recent version number).

One of the things I'm working on is to try to minimise the places where this version number gets baked in to both XenServer and XCP. I expect that by the release of XCP 1.1 (probably August sometime), XenCenter will be able to use most XCP features.

For now, XenCenter kinda works, and if you're willing to do the patch below (or recompile xapi to use a different version number), it'll work better. Don't forget that XenCenter is *not* part of XCP currently, and the team that hack on it have no spare resource to commit to supporting XCP alongside XenServer, so there will not be any guarantees about how well it works. In particular, I suspect that they'll always be checking for licenses, having HA / work load balancing / whatever else dialogs, and various other things that don't make sense for XCP.

Regarding using the xs-tools iso from XenServer, there should be no problems there.

Hope this clarifies things,

Jon

On 16 Feb 2011, at 09:54, Lars Seeliger wrote:

Thanks a million, Tomoiaga!

I'm still unable to configure VM Protection Policies but, other than that, I think everything works. Nice!
On 15 February 2011 22:57, Tomoiaga Cristian <cristi [at] elvsoft<mailto:cristi [at] elvsoft>> wrote:

http://www.xensemaking.com/misc/patchxcp.sh
Will change 1.0 with 5.6 in xapi, just run it on each of your XCP nodes and restart xapi.

You will have to install the XenServer drivers in VMs after that, to be able to suspend, migrate a.s.o.
To do that, you will need to download the xs-tools.iso from XenServer 5.6fp1 to your XCP nodes and replace the original xs-tools.iso and install the new drivers.

Regarding the version change for XCP, that should not be an issue, but I am not sure about the XenServer drivers in XCP VMs. I am playing around with them for some time now and they work ok but an expert should answer if it�s ok to use them for production or not since XenServer and XCP are different products.

From: xen-api-bounces [at] lists<mailto:xen-api-bounces [at] lists> [mailto:xen-api-bounces [at] lists<mailto:xen-api-bounces [at] lists>] On Behalf Of Lars Seeliger
Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2011 10:32 PM
To: deshantm [at] gmail<mailto:deshantm [at] gmail>
Cc: xen-api [at] lists<mailto:xen-api [at] lists>
Subject: Re: [Xen-API] Re: [Xen-users] XCP and XenCenter

I appreciate you getting back to me, Todd.

Right now XenCenter integration is severely limited, feature-wise. I sincerely hope improvements are made soon, or a workaround such as that alluded to by Tomoiaga is provided.

Thanks for your time. And for an otherwise incredible product.
On 15 February 2011 21:22, Todd Deshane <deshantm [at] gmail<mailto:deshantm [at] gmail>> wrote:
Hi Lars,

I'm pretty sure the XenCenter compatibility is in the works. We might
not have all the kinks out by 1.0, but Jon should be able to confirm.

Also, I don't see where the IRC logs are stored either. I asked in the
#xen-api channel and will reply back if I hear anything.

We are in the process of documenting differences between XCP and XenServer here:
http://wiki.xensource.com/xenwiki/XCP_Docs

Thanks for the feedback and if I hear any news I'll write back either
directly to you or this thread.

Thanks,
Todd

<ATT00001..txt>

<ATT00001..txt>

adrian at simpliq

Feb 18, 2011, 9:10 AM

Post #19 of 23 (2722 views)
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RE: Re: [Xen-users] XCP and XenCenter [In reply to]

Hi Jonathan,

Just tested this and it works great. Just as a note, one will also have to use XenServer's xs-tools inside a VPS or modify the version in /usr/sbin/xe-update-guest-attrs line 215-217 or XenCenter will complain that the Tools are out of date and Suspend and maybe other features will be unavailable.

I'm also guessing you'll have to make sure you use the same version on all hosts if using XCP in a pool.

Best regards,
Adrian Costin

From: Jonathan Ludlam [mailto:Jonathan.Ludlam [at] eu]
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 6:08 PM
To: Adrian Costin
Cc: xen-api [at] lists
Subject: Re: [Xen-API] Re: [Xen-users] XCP and XenCenter

rc3 is up:

http://www.xen.org/files/XenCloud/Software/xcp-1.0-rc3

New features: if you create a file '/etc/xensource/xapi_version_override' with contents, for example '5.6.199', XenCenter behaves more nicely when it's connected.

Jon

On 16 Feb 2011, at 16:58, Adrian Costin wrote:

Hi,

Why don't you move the version in some config file. This should be a simple hack and those who wish to change the version to take advantage of all the features in XenCenter would be able to do it without changing a binary file or recompiling.

It would also make it easier to change back in the future when XenCenter will (hopefully) enable features by other means then version checks.

Best regards,
Adrian Costin

From: xen-api-bounces [at] lists<mailto:xen-api-bounces [at] lists> [mailto:xen-api-bounces [at] lists] On Behalf Of Jonathan Ludlam
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 6:37 PM
To: Lars Seeliger
Cc: xen-api [at] lists<mailto:xen-api [at] lists>
Subject: Re: [Xen-API] Re: [Xen-users] XCP and XenCenter

The problems with XenCenter are due to it doing explicit version checks to see whether to enable particular features. We toyed with the idea of internally pretending that XCP had the current XS version to work around this, but it was too gross a hack. It's effectively equivalent to the patch linked to by Tomoiaga (although using a more recent version number).

One of the things I'm working on is to try to minimise the places where this version number gets baked in to both XenServer and XCP. I expect that by the release of XCP 1.1 (probably August sometime), XenCenter will be able to use most XCP features.

For now, XenCenter kinda works, and if you're willing to do the patch below (or recompile xapi to use a different version number), it'll work better. Don't forget that XenCenter is *not* part of XCP currently, and the team that hack on it have no spare resource to commit to supporting XCP alongside XenServer, so there will not be any guarantees about how well it works. In particular, I suspect that they'll always be checking for licenses, having HA / work load balancing / whatever else dialogs, and various other things that don't make sense for XCP.

Regarding using the xs-tools iso from XenServer, there should be no problems there.

Hope this clarifies things,

Jon

On 16 Feb 2011, at 09:54, Lars Seeliger wrote:

Thanks a million, Tomoiaga!

I'm still unable to configure VM Protection Policies but, other than that, I think everything works. Nice!
On 15 February 2011 22:57, Tomoiaga Cristian <cristi [at] elvsoft<mailto:cristi [at] elvsoft>> wrote:

http://www.xensemaking.com/misc/patchxcp.sh
Will change 1.0 with 5.6 in xapi, just run it on each of your XCP nodes and restart xapi.

You will have to install the XenServer drivers in VMs after that, to be able to suspend, migrate a.s.o.
To do that, you will need to download the xs-tools.iso from XenServer 5.6fp1 to your XCP nodes and replace the original xs-tools.iso and install the new drivers.

Regarding the version change for XCP, that should not be an issue, but I am not sure about the XenServer drivers in XCP VMs. I am playing around with them for some time now and they work ok but an expert should answer if it's ok to use them for production or not since XenServer and XCP are different products.

From: xen-api-bounces [at] lists<mailto:xen-api-bounces [at] lists> [mailto:xen-api-bounces [at] lists<mailto:xen-api-bounces [at] lists>] On Behalf Of Lars Seeliger
Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2011 10:32 PM
To: deshantm [at] gmail<mailto:deshantm [at] gmail>
Cc: xen-api [at] lists<mailto:xen-api [at] lists>
Subject: Re: [Xen-API] Re: [Xen-users] XCP and XenCenter

I appreciate you getting back to me, Todd.

Right now XenCenter integration is severely limited, feature-wise. I sincerely hope improvements are made soon, or a workaround such as that alluded to by Tomoiaga is provided.

Thanks for your time. And for an otherwise incredible product.
On 15 February 2011 21:22, Todd Deshane <deshantm [at] gmail<mailto:deshantm [at] gmail>> wrote:
Hi Lars,

I'm pretty sure the XenCenter compatibility is in the works. We might
not have all the kinks out by 1.0, but Jon should be able to confirm.

Also, I don't see where the IRC logs are stored either. I asked in the
#xen-api channel and will reply back if I hear anything.

We are in the process of documenting differences between XCP and XenServer here:
http://wiki.xensource.com/xenwiki/XCP_Docs

Thanks for the feedback and if I hear any news I'll write back either
directly to you or this thread.

Thanks,
Todd

<ATT00001..txt>

<ATT00001..txt>

cristi at elvsoft

Mar 7, 2011, 12:49 AM

Post #20 of 23 (2636 views)
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RE: Re: [Xen-users] XCP and XenCenter [In reply to]

In case someone gets annoyed by the License manager in XenCenter when using XCP, the fix is simple.

Get a free XenServer license and apply it to XCP, it will work ok, no more expiration popups. (tested with an XenServer 5.6 FP1 license on XCP 1).

jfcouture at visionordi

Mar 7, 2011, 5:01 AM

Post #21 of 23 (2747 views)
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RE: Re: [Xen-users] XCP and XenCenter [In reply to]

After using the certificate in xenceter, is the "memory" tab still active for memory balooning, alerts and so on ? Jeff C.

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: RE: [Xen-API] Re: [Xen-users] XCP and XenCenter
From: Tomoiaga Cristian <cristi [at] elvsoft>
Date: Mon, March 07, 2011 1:49 am
To: Jonathan Ludlam <http://Jonathan.Ludlam [at] eu&gt"]Jonathan.Ludlam [at] eu>
Cc: "xen-api [at] lists" <xen-api [at] lists>

In case someone gets annoyed by the License manager in XenCenter when using XCP, the fix is simple. Get a free XenServer license and apply it to XCP, it will work ok, no more expiration popups. (tested with an XenServer 5.6 FP1 license on XCP 1).
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cristi at elvsoft

Mar 7, 2011, 5:02 AM

Post #22 of 23 (2649 views)
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RE: Re: [Xen-users] XCP and XenCenter [In reply to]

Yes, everything seems to work ok, there are no limitations even if the license is for a free XenServer edition.

Regards,
Tomoiaga

christian.fischer at easterngraphics

Mar 10, 2011, 1:33 AM

Post #23 of 23 (2626 views)
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Re: Re: [Xen-users] XCP and XenCenter [In reply to]

On Monday 07 March 2011 09:49:00 Tomoiaga Cristian wrote:
> In case someone gets annoyed by the License manager in XenCenter when using
> XCP, the fix is simple.
>
> Get a free XenServer license and apply it to XCP, it will work ok, no more
> expiration popups. (tested with an XenServer 5.6 FP1 license on XCP 1).

Any bad news in the meantime or is this fix safe?

Thanks
Christian

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