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chuckssmith at gmail

Aug 29, 2006, 8:02 AM

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WikiCreole - a common wiki markup

During WikiSym, we (Christoph Sauer, Janne Jalkanen, Ward Cunningham
and I) held a five-hour workshop where we agreed on a new common wiki
markup based on looking at the markup of popular wikis as well as
deciding what would be intuitive. Our conclusion was not to replace
wiki markup, but rather to provide an alternative way to edit wikis,
so that visitors of a new wiki engine will feel more welcome. Several
wiki engines have agreed to jump on board (including MediaWiki and the
Ward's original WikiWikiWeb).

Although we do not say how to implement Creole for a particular wiki
engine, two possibilities would be to have a separate edit button,
using placeholders to hide advanced native wiki markup from users or
if possible to have a mixed edit where users could use Creole as well
as native markup which would then be translated to the native markup.

We have set up the WikiCreole wiki (www.wikicreole.org) to continue
the discussion and work. We would be interested to know what you
think and to hear from you if you would also like to add Creole
support to your wiki.

Starting points:
- http://www.wikicreole.org/
- http://www.wikicreole.org/wiki/AllMarkup
- http://www.wikicreole.org/wiki/Engines

Best wishes,
Chuck
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stevage at gmail

Aug 29, 2006, 8:09 AM

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Re: WikiCreole - a common wiki markup [In reply to]

On 8/29/06, Chuck Smith <chuckssmith[at]gmail.com> wrote:
> During WikiSym, we (Christoph Sauer, Janne Jalkanen, Ward Cunningham
> and I) held a five-hour workshop where we agreed on a new common wiki
> markup based on looking at the markup of popular wikis as well as

What are the popular wikis?

Steve
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robchur at gmail

Aug 29, 2006, 8:11 AM

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Re: WikiCreole - a common wiki markup [In reply to]

On 29/08/06, Steve Bennett <stevage[at]gmail.com> wrote:
> On 8/29/06, Chuck Smith <chuckssmith[at]gmail.com> wrote:
> > During WikiSym, we (Christoph Sauer, Janne Jalkanen, Ward Cunningham
> > and I) held a five-hour workshop where we agreed on a new common wiki
> > markup based on looking at the markup of popular wikis as well as
>
> What are the popular wikis?

Project-wise, I'm thinking WardsWiki, MeatBall, Wikipedia, etc. - the
large, well-known ones, and the ones that were around first.

Engine-wise, that'd be UseModWiki, MediaWiki, MoinMoin and other
similar solutions.

Rob Church
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krstic at solarsail

Aug 29, 2006, 8:34 AM

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Re: WikiCreole - a common wiki markup [In reply to]

Hi Chuck,

Chuck Smith wrote:
> We have set up the WikiCreole wiki (www.wikicreole.org) to continue
> the discussion and work. We would be interested to know what you
> think and to hear from you if you would also like to add Creole
> support to your wiki.

over the last few weeks, I designed a markup format to be used on the
laptops of the One Laptop per Child project (http://laptop.org), and
have arrived at one that's reasonably similar to Creole. The markup I've
worked on is a cross between John Gruber's Markdown and Lee Daniel
Crocker's proposed replacement for MW's wikitext syntax.

You can find the RFC (still a work in progress!), including rationale, here:
http://dev.laptop.org/git.do?p=users/krstic/docformat;a=blob;hb=HEAD;f=document-format.txt

The markup I need for OLPC is a superset of Creole, but it would
certainly be beneficial to see if we could converge on identical syntax
for the bits we do share.

Cheers,

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