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mhershberger at wikimedia

Mar 14, 2011, 9:27 PM

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Highest Priority Bugs

Since I've had so much success with the triage meetings for Bug 27339
(http://eiximenis.wikimedia.org/Bug27339, summary coming tomorrow) I
thought I'd try to do the same thing with wikitech-l and the
non-enhancement bugs marked “highest” priority.

Every week, I'll publish a list of these bugs here with a summary of
their status. Since I don't always have a good grasp of what is of the
most interest to the larger community, I need some feedback on these
bugs. If you think there is something that should be on this list that
isn't, let me know. Likewise, if you think something on this list
should not be here, let me know.

For now, though, I'll just post the one-line summary of the bug and its
number. Look these over. If you see one that you think you could take
responsibility for, then assign it to yourself. I do ask, though, that
a developer has only one highest priority bug. Don't get over-ambitious
— I will be nagging you, after all.

So now, the bugs:

28052 Deploy Gender Namespaces on all relevant wikis
27089 Request to move Wikimedia.in to Wikimedia servers
23126 Locked and hidden accounts can unify new local accounts
27537 When SVG file is broken, warn about that, instead of mime failure.
22428 Line breaks in pasted text not picked up in Safari 4, Chrome 4
16976 Wikis ready for creation (tracking)
1319 doBlockLevels inserts pre-tags in a text created by an extension

Hope to hear from you all,

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tstarling at wikimedia

Mar 14, 2011, 10:33 PM

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On 15/03/11 15:27, Mark A. Hershberger wrote:
> 1319 doBlockLevels inserts pre-tags in a text created by an extension

How is this high priority? It's easy to work around and affects no
actual users. It's just a nuisance for developers who write tag hook
extensions, requiring a few extra lines of code.

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hashar+wmf at free

Mar 15, 2011, 12:32 AM

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On 15/03/11 05:27, Mark A. Hershberger wrote:
> [..] on-enhancement bugs marked “highest” priority.
>
> Every week, I'll publish a list of these bugs here with a summary of
> their status. [..]

Thanks for this initiative! It is always great to have a target when
doing hacking week-end.
You should also have a look at the most voted enhancements bugs.

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h2geral at gmail

Mar 15, 2011, 3:43 AM

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On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 04:32, Ashar Voultoiz <hashar+wmf [at] free> wrote:

> You should also have a look at the most voted enhancements bugs.
>

How do you get such a list from bugzilla?

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roan.kattouw at gmail

Mar 15, 2011, 1:00 PM

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2011/3/15 Helder <h2geral [at] gmail>:
> How do you get such a list from bugzilla?
>
Using the advanced search feature, I guess? BZ's options for creating
advanced searches are virtually endless (and confusing as a result).

Roan Kattouw (Catrope)

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Mar 15, 2011, 1:03 PM

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2011/3/15 Mark A. Hershberger <mhershberger [at] wikimedia>:
> 28052 Deploy Gender Namespaces on all relevant wikis
> 27089 Request to move Wikimedia.in to Wikimedia servers
These are shell bugs.

> 16976 Wikis ready for creation (tracking)
Another shell bug.

I'm not saying they're not important because they're shell bugs, but
they are things that can't be fixed by just any developer (needs a
sysadmin), so in the specific context of nagging developers they're
not very relevant IMO. Of course you should still be nagging people
about them, just different people (sysadmins) :)

Roan Kattouw (Catrope)

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overlordq at gmail

Mar 15, 2011, 3:10 PM

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On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 3:00 PM, Roan Kattouw <roan.kattouw [at] gmail> wrote:
> 2011/3/15 Helder <h2geral [at] gmail>:
>> How do you get such a list from bugzilla?
>>
> Using the advanced search feature, I guess? BZ's options for creating
> advanced searches are virtually endless (and confusing as a result).

Like so: http://bit.ly/hRKxXz

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h2geral at gmail

Mar 15, 2011, 3:23 PM

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On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 19:10, OQ <overlordq [at] gmail> wrote:

> Like so: http://bit.ly/hRKxXz
>

Exactly! Thank you!

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krinklemail at gmail

Mar 15, 2011, 3:55 PM

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On March, 15 2011, at 23:23 Helder wrote:

> On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 19:10, OQ <overlordq [at] gmail> wrote:
>
>>> 2011/3/15 Helder <h2geral [at] gmail>:
>>>
>>> How do you get such a list from bugzilla?
>>>
>> Like so: http://bit.ly/hRKxXz
>>
>
> Exactly! Thank you!

Here's a variation ordered by number of votes and and filtered out
(and speed up the query) all bugs with 1 or no votes at all:

http://bit.ly/wmbugstopvotes

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mhershberger at wikimedia

Mar 15, 2011, 4:34 PM

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Tim Starling <tstarling [at] wikimedia> writes:

> On 15/03/11 15:27, Mark A. Hershberger wrote:
>> 1319 doBlockLevels inserts pre-tags in a text created by an extension
>
> How is this high priority?

There were several other bugs that were duplicates of it. Including,
most recently, https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/27906. Developers keep
running into it.

But you're right that it probably doesn't rise to the level of “highest”
priority. It should be included as a point of reference for the work on
the parser that is being done and, for that reason, it is tagged
“parser”.

I've changed the priority.

Mark.

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p858snake at yahoo

Mar 15, 2011, 4:39 PM

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On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 5:32 PM, Ashar Voultoiz <hashar+wmf [at] free> wrote:
> You should also have a look at the most voted enhancements bugs.
> Ashar Voultoiz
We don't really promote the use of the vote feature, in fact last i
heard most people wanted it scraped across the whole system since it's
basically pointless for most of the developers that use BZ.

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innocentkiller at gmail

Mar 15, 2011, 4:42 PM

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Voting is disappearing with the BZ4 upgrade anyway.

-Chad
On Mar 15, 2011 4:40 PM, "K. Peachey" <p858snake [at] yahoo> wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 5:32 PM, Ashar Voultoiz <hashar+wmf [at] free>
wrote:
>> You should also have a look at the most voted enhancements bugs.
>> Ashar Voultoiz
> We don't really promote the use of the vote feature, in fact last i
> heard most people wanted it scraped across the whole system since it's
> basically pointless for most of the developers that use BZ.
>
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mhershberger at wikimedia

Mar 15, 2011, 4:43 PM

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Roan Kattouw <roan.kattouw [at] gmail> writes:

> 2011/3/15 Mark A. Hershberger <mhershberger [at] wikimedia>:
>> 28052 Deploy Gender Namespaces on all relevant wikis
>> 27089 Request to move Wikimedia.in to Wikimedia servers
> These are shell bugs.
>
>> 16976 Wikis ready for creation (tracking)
> Another shell bug.

Good points.

Which means that you and Tim have successfully eliminated several bugs
that I could nag people on wikitech-l about. I'll be back Friday with
more bugs.

Mark.

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z at mzmcbride

Mar 15, 2011, 6:11 PM

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Mark A. Hershberger wrote:
> Roan Kattouw <roan.kattouw [at] gmail> writes:
>> 2011/3/15 Mark A. Hershberger <mhershberger [at] wikimedia>:
>>> 28052 Deploy Gender Namespaces on all relevant wikis
>>> 27089 Request to move Wikimedia.in to Wikimedia servers
>> These are shell bugs.
>>
>>> 16976 Wikis ready for creation (tracking)
>> Another shell bug.
>
> Good points.
>
> Which means that you and Tim have successfully eliminated several bugs
> that I could nag people on wikitech-l about. I'll be back Friday with
> more bugs.

There are a few bugs that aren't really "shell" bugs, but actually "root"
bugs (which doesn't have its own keyword). I think it'd be nice to include
one "root" bug every week. For example, I'm fairly sure
<https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9204> is ready to be
deployed across the cluster, but requires a root user. I don't remember
off-hand if creating a wiki is something that a normal "shell" user can do,
so those might be an option for "root" bugs as well. Just a thought.

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roan.kattouw at gmail

Mar 16, 2011, 3:38 AM

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2011/3/16 MZMcBride <z [at] mzmcbride>:
> There are a few bugs that aren't really "shell" bugs, but actually "root"
> bugs (which doesn't have its own keyword). I think it'd be nice to include
> one "root" bug every week. For example, I'm fairly sure
> <https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9204> is ready to be
> deployed across the cluster, but requires a root user.
I'll create an RT ticket for that one.

> I don't remember
> off-hand if creating a wiki is something that a normal "shell" user can do,
> so those might be an option for "root" bugs as well. Just a thought.
>
Normal shell users can execute all but one of the steps required for
wiki creation: root access is needed to create the DNS entry for the
new subdomain. Previously we just had RobH handle all wiki creations,
but he's been working almost exclusively on setting up the Virginia
datacenter for a while now AFAIK. I previously suggested on IRC that
we could have regular shell users like Ashar do the wiki creations at
a scheduled time and assign a root to do the DNS stuff for them.

Roan Kattouw (Catrope)

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marco at harddisk

Mar 16, 2011, 6:07 AM

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On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 11:38 AM, Roan Kattouw <roan.kattouw [at] gmail> wrote:
> Normal shell users can execute all but one of the steps required for
> wiki creation: root access is needed to create the DNS entry for the
> new subdomain. Previously we just had RobH handle all wiki creations,
> but he's been working almost exclusively on setting up the Virginia
> datacenter for a while now AFAIK. I previously suggested on IRC that
> we could have regular shell users like Ashar do the wiki creations at
> a scheduled time and assign a root to do the DNS stuff for them.

Why is a rootuser needed for changing DNS entries? A zonefile is a
normal textfile, after all - and if you use PowerDNS on one server
configured as supermaster with a MySQL backend and other servers with
PowerDNS as superslave (backend is not important there), you don't
even need shell access to manage your DNS. Not even for creating new
zones, as the supermaster makes all slaves automatically sync those
zones where the invidual slaveserver is listed with a NS entry.
</powerdns_ad>

Marco

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hashar+wmf at free

Mar 17, 2011, 12:30 AM

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On 16/03/11 00:39, K. Peachey wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 5:32 PM, Ashar Voultoiz<hashar+wmf [at] free> wrote:
>> You should also have a look at the most voted enhancements bugs.
>> Ashar Voultoiz
> We don't really promote the use of the vote feature, in fact last i
> heard most people wanted it scraped across the whole system since it's
> basically pointless for most of the developers that use BZ.

I am probably the only developer looking at the vote field, and I don't
even use it to choose a bug to fix :-\

Was just pointing at it because I feel it *could* be used to get
feedback from the community as to what is important to them.

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gerard.meijssen at gmail

Mar 17, 2011, 12:35 AM

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Hoi,
When voting for bugs is relevant, it is quite feasible to promote voting
again. As it is, votes are not considered so at one stage I actively
discouraged voting.

I will be really pleased to talk up voting for bugs when votes are factored
in in the the decision what to do next. It helps when a guestimation is
added to the amount of work involved. Voting for something small gets easier
done *and finished* then something like re write the parser.
Thanks,
GerardM

On 17 March 2011 08:30, Ashar Voultoiz <hashar+wmf [at] free> wrote:

> On 16/03/11 00:39, K. Peachey wrote:
> > On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 5:32 PM, Ashar Voultoiz<hashar+wmf [at] free>
> wrote:
> >> You should also have a look at the most voted enhancements bugs.
> >> Ashar Voultoiz
> > We don't really promote the use of the vote feature, in fact last i
> > heard most people wanted it scraped across the whole system since it's
> > basically pointless for most of the developers that use BZ.
>
> I am probably the only developer looking at the vote field, and I don't
> even use it to choose a bug to fix :-\
>
> Was just pointing at it because I feel it *could* be used to get
> feedback from the community as to what is important to them.
>
> --
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>
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Mar 17, 2011, 12:41 AM

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On 16/03/11 11:38, Roan Kattouw wrote:
> Normal shell users can execute all but one of the steps required for
> wiki creation: root access is needed to create the DNS entry for the
> new subdomain. Previously we just had RobH handle all wiki creations,
> but he's been working almost exclusively on setting up the Virginia
> datacenter for a while now AFAIK. I previously suggested on IRC that
> we could have regular shell users like Ashar do the wiki creations at
> a scheduled time and assign a root to do the DNS stuff for them.

Scheduling is a great idea.

Maybe DNS modification could be made to not require root account but
just a specific group of well trained people. I have been a dns admin
for an ISP in a previous job, currently an architect for network
geolocalisation so I probably could apply :p

Of course, this does not fix the actual creation of the wikis.

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Platonides at gmail

Mar 17, 2011, 2:15 PM

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Roan Kattouw wrote:
> 2011/3/16 MZMcBride <z [at] mzmcbride>:
>> I don't remember
>> off-hand if creating a wiki is something that a normal "shell" user can do,
>> so those might be an option for "root" bugs as well. Just a thought.
>>
> Normal shell users can execute all but one of the steps required for
> wiki creation: root access is needed to create the DNS entry for the
> new subdomain. Previously we just had RobH handle all wiki creations,
> but he's been working almost exclusively on setting up the Virginia
> datacenter for a while now AFAIK. I previously suggested on IRC that
> we could have regular shell users like Ashar do the wiki creations at
> a scheduled time and assign a root to do the DNS stuff for them.
>
> Roan Kattouw (Catrope)

There's no need for both steps to be done at the same time. An ops
person could add the dns entry and have the real wiki be added later.


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Simetrical+wikilist at gmail

Mar 17, 2011, 5:19 PM

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On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 6:38 AM, Roan Kattouw <roan.kattouw [at] gmail> wrote:
> Normal shell users can execute all but one of the steps required for
> wiki creation: root access is needed to create the DNS entry for the
> new subdomain.

Why doesn't Wikimedia just set up a wildcard domain for
*.wikipedia.org? They all go to the same IP address anyway, right?
Just have the application (maybe Squid) return a 404 if the project
doesn't exist.

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Mar 17, 2011, 5:49 PM

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Aryeh Gregor wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 6:38 AM, Roan Kattouw <roan.kattouw [at] gmail> wrote:
>> Normal shell users can execute all but one of the steps required for
>> wiki creation: root access is needed to create the DNS entry for the
>> new subdomain.
>
> Why doesn't Wikimedia just set up a wildcard domain for
> *.wikipedia.org? They all go to the same IP address anyway, right?
> Just have the application (maybe Squid) return a 404 if the project
> doesn't exist.

It does send an error listing a project index, if you try to use a
non-existant project.


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Mar 17, 2011, 6:39 PM

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On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 8:49 PM, Platonides <Platonides [at] gmail> wrote:
> Aryeh Gregor wrote:
>> On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 6:38 AM, Roan Kattouw <roan.kattouw [at] gmail> wrote:
>>> Normal shell users can execute all but one of the steps required for
>>> wiki creation: root access is needed to create the DNS entry for the
>>> new subdomain.
>>
>> Why doesn't Wikimedia just set up a wildcard domain for
>> *.wikipedia.org?  They all go to the same IP address anyway, right?
>> Just have the application (maybe Squid) return a 404 if the project
>> doesn't exist.
>
> It does send an error listing a project index, if you try to use a
> non-existant project.

It does? I get a DNS error:

http://phoonzang.wikipedia.org/

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Mar 17, 2011, 7:05 PM

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On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 11:39 AM, Aryeh Gregor
<Simetrical+wikilist [at] gmail> wrote:
> It does?  I get a DNS error:
>
> http://phoonzang.wikipedia.org/
I think he means for ones that have the DNS zone but not the wiki created.

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Mar 17, 2011, 11:21 PM

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On 17/03/11 18:30, Ashar Voultoiz wrote:
> I am probably the only developer looking at the vote field, and I don't
> even use it to choose a bug to fix :-\
>

I look at it often enough. I suggested category sorting as a project
for Aryeh based on its high vote count. I've been beating the drum for
bug 189 for the same reason, but I haven't managed to get resources
for it yet.

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