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dgerard at gmail

Nov 8, 2009, 7:17 AM

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Browser stats - OS as well?

I just rediscovered this marvellous page:

http://stats.wikimedia.org/wikimedia/squids/SquidReportClients.htm

Browser stats from a very mainstream, top-5 website, pure and unbiased!

One interesting question missing there: OS breakdown?
Windows/Mac/Linux/various mobiles/other? Would it be feasible to list
these as well?

- d.

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gmane at kennel17

Nov 8, 2009, 7:21 AM

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Re: Browser stats - OS as well? [In reply to]

"David Gerard" <dgerard [at] gmail> wrote in message
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>I just rediscovered this marvellous page:
>
> http://stats.wikimedia.org/wikimedia/squids/SquidReportClients.htm
>
> Browser stats from a very mainstream, top-5 website, pure and unbiased!
>
> One interesting question missing there: OS breakdown?
> Windows/Mac/Linux/various mobiles/other? Would it be feasible to list
> these as well?
>
>

Do you mean
http://stats.wikimedia.org/wikimedia/squids/SquidReportOperatingSystems.htm?

Or perhaps you mean browser/OS combinations?

- Mark Clements (HappyDog)

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dgerard at gmail

Nov 8, 2009, 7:28 AM

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Re: Browser stats - OS as well? [In reply to]

2009/11/8 Mark Clements (HappyDog) <gmane [at] kennel17>:
> "David Gerard" <dgerard [at] gmail> wrote in message
> news:fbad4e140911080717j10f5b64v14bb47223fe1beec [at] mail

>>I just rediscovered this marvellous page:
>> http://stats.wikimedia.org/wikimedia/squids/SquidReportClients.htm
>> Browser stats from a very mainstream, top-5 website, pure and unbiased!
>> One interesting question missing there: OS breakdown?
>> Windows/Mac/Linux/various mobiles/other? Would it be feasible to list
>> these as well?

> Do you mean
> http://stats.wikimedia.org/wikimedia/squids/SquidReportOperatingSystems.htm?

:-D That's PRECISELY what I'm after, thank you!

> Or perhaps you mean browser/OS combinations?

I think that'll do for the moment, though the combined figures would
be of interest :-)

The problem these numbers solve is that most browser stat reports are
a pack of lies at worst and hideously biased at best. Wikimedia sites
are stupidly mainstream and long ago went beyond being the province of
geeks, or even "web savvy" users. Even idiots use Wikipedia.

So the actual stats from an unbiased source with no interest in the
fight are a ridiculously valuable commodity.

- d.

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maxsem.wiki at gmail

Nov 8, 2009, 8:19 AM

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Re: Browser stats - OS as well? [In reply to]

On 08.11.2009, 18:17 David wrote:

> I just rediscovered this marvellous page:

> http://stats.wikimedia.org/wikimedia/squids/SquidReportClients.htm

> Browser stats from a very mainstream, top-5 website, pure and unbiased!

One remark about browser stats: Opera version extraction is incorrect.
Since some sites have regexes that assume that major version is one
character long, the Opera developers had to resort to reporting a 9.x
version in the old place, and append the actual version later. So
current version has user-agent string like that:

Opera/9.80 (Windows NT 5.1; U; ru) Presto/2.2.15 Version/10.01

Therefore, Opera 9.80 is not a real version and needs to be broken
down further.

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Best regards,
Max Semenik ([[User:MaxSem]])

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scs at eskimo

Nov 8, 2009, 11:30 AM

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Re: Browser stats - OS as well? [In reply to]

> Since some sites have regexes that assume that major version is one
> character long, the Opera developers had to resort to reporting a 9.x
> version in the old place, and append the actual version later.

Good grief. That's one of the stupidest things I've heard in some time.

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dgerard at gmail

Nov 8, 2009, 12:31 PM

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Re: Browser stats - OS as well? [In reply to]

2009/11/8 Steve Summit <scs [at] eskimo>:

>> Since some sites have regexes that assume that major version is one
>> character long, the Opera developers had to resort to reporting a 9.x
>> version in the old place, and append the actual version later.

> Good grief. That's one of the stupidest things I've heard in some time.

Welcome to the world of user agent strings. They're almost entirely
composed of lies for browser compatibility.

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stevagewp at gmail

Nov 14, 2009, 6:56 AM

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Re: Browser stats - OS as well? [In reply to]

On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 2:21 AM, Mark Clements (HappyDog)
<gmane [at] kennel17> wrote:
> Do you mean
> http://stats.wikimedia.org/wikimedia/squids/SquidReportOperatingSystems.htm?

Cool. What is the "mediawiki" browser?

Steve

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bryan.tongminh at gmail

Nov 14, 2009, 10:41 AM

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On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 3:56 PM, Steve Bennett <stevagewp [at] gmail> wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 2:21 AM, Mark Clements (HappyDog)
> <gmane [at] kennel17> wrote:
>> Do you mean
>> http://stats.wikimedia.org/wikimedia/squids/SquidReportOperatingSystems.htm?
>
> Cool. What is the "mediawiki" browser?
>
Perhaps the fetching of description pages from Commons? Does that go
via the squids?

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