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lars at aronsson

Nov 3, 2009, 9:13 AM

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==Watch a category of articles==
2010 is election year in Sweden, so I want to keep an eye on all
articles in category:Swedish politicians, in recursive levels.

I now do this on a weekly basis, using CatScan,
http://toolserver.org/~daniel/WikiSense/CategoryIntersect.php

I set wiki = sv.wikipedia.org
search in category = svenska politiker
with depth = 7
for changes in last 168 hours (= 7 x 24 = one week)
save as CSV format

I then filter the output using the UNIX command line
awk '$1==0 {print $2}'|sort|uniq -c|sort -nr

to get a listing of which articles got the most edits.

It would be nice to intersect this search with category:Living
people, so dead politicians are filtered out.

Are there already any smarter tools to do this?

==Watch a local community==
For a local history project, I want to involve users close to me.
These are found in category:Users in (my home town). From that
category I can view "related changes", but that only covers
changes to their user pages. I want to see contributions made by
this group of users. Are there any tools for this?

If contributions to sv.wikipedia and Wikimedia commons could be
combined in one list, that would be all the better.


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Lars Aronsson (lars [at] aronsson)
Aronsson Datateknik - http://aronsson.se

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Platonides at gmail

Nov 3, 2009, 10:49 AM

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Re: More advanced watchlists [In reply to]

Lars Aronsson wrote:
> ==Watch a category of articles==
> 2010 is election year in Sweden, so I want to keep an eye on all
> articles in category:Swedish politicians, in recursive levels.
>
> I now do this on a weekly basis, using CatScan,
> http://toolserver.org/~daniel/WikiSense/CategoryIntersect.php
>
> I set wiki = sv.wikipedia.org
> search in category = svenska politiker
> with depth = 7
> for changes in last 168 hours (= 7 x 24 = one week)
> save as CSV format
>
> I then filter the output using the UNIX command line
> awk '$1==0 {print $2}'|sort|uniq -c|sort -nr
>
> to get a listing of which articles got the most edits.
>
> It would be nice to intersect this search with category:Living
> people, so dead politicians are filtered out.
>
> Are there already any smarter tools to do this?

Watching articles in a given category wouldn't be too hard.
OTOH, recursion and intersection have the problems that have been
discussed many times.


> ==Watch a local community==
> For a local history project, I want to involve users close to me.
> These are found in category:Users in (my home town). From that
> category I can view "related changes", but that only covers
> changes to their user pages. I want to see contributions made by
> this group of users. Are there any tools for this?
>
> If contributions to sv.wikipedia and Wikimedia commons could be
> combined in one list, that would be all the better.

Viewing contributions made by a group (with the option of importing from
a category) look appropiate for a TS tool.


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thomas.dalton at gmail

Nov 3, 2009, 10:54 AM

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Re: More advanced watchlists [In reply to]

2009/11/3 Lars Aronsson <lars [at] aronsson>:
>
> ==Watch a category of articles==
> 2010 is election year in Sweden, so I want to keep an eye on all
> articles in category:Swedish politicians, in recursive levels.
[snip]
> Are there already any smarter tools to do this?

You could make a list of all the politicians you are interested in as
a subpage of your user page (or a wikiproject page) and then use the
"related changes" feature on that page. It's not ideal, but it would
work.

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agarrett at wikimedia

Nov 3, 2009, 12:34 PM

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Re: More advanced watchlists [In reply to]

At Wikimania, I had a great discussion with Brianna about the sorts of
things we'd like to do to bring watchlists up to date with all the
current use cases.

We'd definitely want to be able to watch for periods of time, we want
to be able to watch categories, and perhaps shared and multiple
watchlists are ideas worth investigating.

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Andrew Garrett
agarrett [at] wikimedia
http://werdn.us/


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tim at tim-landscheidt

Nov 4, 2009, 9:01 AM

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Andrew Garrett <agarrett [at] wikimedia> wrote:

> At Wikimania, I had a great discussion with Brianna about the sorts of
> things we'd like to do to bring watchlists up to date with all the
> current use cases.

> We'd definitely want to be able to watch for periods of time, we want
> to be able to watch categories, and perhaps shared and multiple
> watchlists are ideas worth investigating.

While you're at it :-), I would definitely like some
FlaggedRevs flavour in there, i. e. not have to check the
watchlist every day or collect all the diffs manually, but
have a clean interface for "changes since my last view of
this page". You could either record when the user follows
the link from the watchlist or have a separate button "Okay,
make this the last viewed revision" . I don't know how that
would interact with RevisionDelete as in whether to save the
ID or the timestamp of the last viewed revision.

Tim


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