tparscal at wikimedia
Sep 24, 2009, 3:44 PM
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Re: JS2 design (was Re: Working towards branchingMediaWiki 1.16)
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On 9/24/09 2:34 PM, Jared Williams wrote:
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: wikitech-l-bounces[at]lists.wikimedia.org
>> [mailto:wikitech-l-bounces[at]lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of
>> Trevor Parscal
>> Sent: 24 September 2009 21:49
>> To: wikitech-l[at]lists.wikimedia.org
>> Subject: Re: [Wikitech-l] JS2 design (was Re: Working towards
>> branchingMediaWiki 1.16)
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>> On 9/24/09 1:40 PM, Jared Williams wrote:
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>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: wikitech-l-bounces[at]lists.wikimedia.org
>>>> [mailto:wikitech-l-bounces[at]lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf
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>> Of Trevor
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>>>> Parscal
>>>> Sent: 24 September 2009 19:38
>>>> To: wikitech-l[at]lists.wikimedia.org
>>>> Subject: Re: [Wikitech-l] JS2 design (was Re: Working towards
>>>> branchingMediaWiki 1.16)
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>>>> On 9/24/09 9:31 AM, Jared Williams wrote:
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>>>>>>> * Automatically create CSS sprites?
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>>>>>> That would be neat, but perhaps a bit tricky.
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>>>>> Just trying to think how it'd work.
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>>>>> Given a CSS selector, and an image, should be able to construct
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>>>>> single image.
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>>>>> (#toolbar-copy, toolbar-copy.png)
>>>>> (#toolbar-copy:hover, toolbar-copy-hover.png)
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>>>>> And the generated stylesheet would get concatenated with other
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>>>> Again, I like sprites allot! But in reality, they are an
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>>> Providing CSS sprite support would be (I guess) just a service for
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>>> resource manager(?). So the mediawiki or an extension can put in a
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>>> request for a some stylesheet or javascript be linked to, it could
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>>> also request for images possibly via CSS sprites.
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>>> So don't see how it should cause a problem.
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>>> Jared
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>> So you are saying that you believe a generic set of
>> sprite-generation utilities are going to be able to
>> completely overcome the issues I identified and be a better
>> use of time (to design, develop and use) than just creating
>> and using sprites manually?
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>> - Trevor
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> I wouldn't say there a issues with CSS sprites, but there are
> limitations which you have to be aware of before deciding on using
> them, and therefore do not need overcoming.
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> In the context of providing toolbar imagery for UIs like a WYSIWYG
> editor, or for playing video, audio, or for simple image editing, they
> can remove a lot of round triping.
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> Jared
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Sounds like we agree. The issues weren't issues with sprites, they were
issues with automating them.
- Trevor
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