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gtisza at gmail

Sep 16, 2009, 6:18 AM

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Re: Speed of parsing messages (was: how to chang {{SITENAME}})

Gerard Meijssen <gerard.meijssen <at> gmail.com> writes:
> The plural construct is used when it is not clear how many items will be
> available. Consequently there is not much to be done about it. Also the
> effect of plural is not the same for every languages. Welsh allows for six
> ways of indicating a multitude.

Some of them may be rephrased, and some localizations do not really need them at
all. Foe example, in Hungarian "<number> <noun>" constructs the noun is always
in singular, so we've been using "{{PLURAL:$1|one|$1}} thingy" because the
automated checks complain if they see no PLURAL, but on hu.wikipedia it could be
replaced with "$1 thingy" without trouble. (I'm not sure there are actually
frequently loading messages which have PLURAL, but it's worth checking.)

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Sep 16, 2009, 6:32 AM

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Re: Speed of parsing messages (was: how to chang {{SITENAME}}) [In reply to]

2009/9/16 Tisza Gergő <gtisza[at]gmail.com>:
> Some of them may be rephrased, and some localizations do not really need them at
> all. Foe example, in Hungarian "<number> <noun>" constructs the noun is always
> in singular, so we've been using "{{PLURAL:$1|one|$1}} thingy" because the
> automated checks complain if they see no PLURAL, but on hu.wikipedia it could be
> replaced with "$1 thingy" without trouble. (I'm not sure there are actually
> frequently loading messages which have PLURAL, but it's worth checking.)
>
Ideally there'd be a better way to mark a message as "yes, I know this
usually uses PLURAL, but this language doesn't need it here", that'd
also save useless efforts by the parser in expanding PLURAL.

Roan Kattouw (Catrope)

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Sep 16, 2009, 8:39 AM

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Re: Speed of parsing messages (was: how to chang {{SITENAME}}) [In reply to]

On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 9:18 AM, Tisza Gergő <gtisza[at]gmail.com> wrote:
> Some of them may be rephrased, and some localizations do not really need them at
> all. Foe example, in Hungarian "<number> <noun>" constructs the noun is always
> in singular, so we've been using "{{PLURAL:$1|one|$1}} thingy" because the
> automated checks complain if they see no PLURAL, but on hu.wikipedia it could be
> replaced with "$1 thingy" without trouble.

I'm pretty sure this warning can be suppressed on a per-language basis.

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