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Aug 31, 2009, 12:34 PM

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flaggedrevs.labs.wikimedia.org Status?

Greetings.

Can anyone provide a status update regarding flaggedrevs.labs.wikimedia.org ?

In the future perhaps it would be better to import simple english
Wikipedia for enwp testing: The lack of templates makes the site look
extensively vandalized already. I'm guessing that an alternative
english language project would be more useful than a subset of enwp.
:)

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brion at wikimedia

Aug 31, 2009, 11:36 PM

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On 8/31/09 4:34 PM, Gregory Maxwell wrote:
> Greetings.
>
> Can anyone provide a status update regarding flaggedrevs.labs.wikimedia.org ?
>
> In the future perhaps it would be better to import simple english
> Wikipedia for enwp testing: The lack of templates makes the site look
> extensively vandalized already. I'm guessing that an alternative
> english language project would be more useful than a subset of enwp.
> :)

All templates referenced from the pages were included in the
export/import, unless of course something messed up. :)

-- brion

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Sep 1, 2009, 12:08 AM

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Perhaps I am misunderstanding, but simple shouldn't be locked into some sort
of 'testing' agreement with enwp unless there is some sort of consensus on
both sites, and I have little doubt that consensus will not exist for such
an action.

As I say, perhaps I am misunderstanding.

- Chris

2009/8/31 Gregory Maxwell <gmaxwell [at] gmail>

> Greetings.
>
> Can anyone provide a status update regarding
> flaggedrevs.labs.wikimedia.org ?
>
> In the future perhaps it would be better to import simple english
> Wikipedia for enwp testing: The lack of templates makes the site look
> extensively vandalized already. I'm guessing that an alternative
> english language project would be more useful than a subset of enwp.
> :)
>
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Sep 1, 2009, 12:39 AM

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On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 3:08 AM, Chris Down<asenine [at] gmail> wrote:
> Perhaps I am misunderstanding, but simple shouldn't be locked into some sort
> of 'testing' agreement with enwp unless there is some sort of consensus on
> both sites, and I have little doubt that consensus will not exist for such
> an action.
>
> As I say, perhaps I am misunderstanding.

You're misunderstanding. I was suggesting making a copy, thus
"import", of simple instead of a partial copy of English. For testing
a copy of some wiki is required. I'm personally quite happy testing
with a language I can't understand (avoids getting distracted reading
the text!) but many find it desirable to test with a language they
can. Enwp itself is too big for a reasonable test import, but simple
is right-sized.

Seems my concern was moot in any case... Every time I loaded it I've
only seen trashed pages like this:
http://flaggedrevs.labs.wikimedia.org/wiki/Super_Smash_Bros._Melee

But I guess this is just a result of the import being incomplete.

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Sep 1, 2009, 2:03 AM

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On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 5:39 PM, Gregory Maxwell<gmaxwell [at] gmail> wrote:
> Seems my concern was moot in any case... Every time I loaded it I've
> only seen trashed pages like this:
> http://flaggedrevs.labs.wikimedia.org/wiki/Super_Smash_Bros._Melee
>
> But I guess this is just a result of the import being incomplete.
It's not trashed.... it's just missing templates and possibly css
styles. The import was only for the articles, Someone needs to go in
and import the templates listed on [[Special:WantedTemplates]] [1] and
possibly the [[Mediawiki:Common.css]] and [[Mediawiki:Monobook]] from
the en.wikipedia[2][3].

-Peachey

[1]. http://flaggedrevs.labs.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:WantedTemplates&limit=500&offset=0
[2]. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Common.css
[3]. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Monobook.css

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Sep 1, 2009, 2:56 AM

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Re: flaggedrevs.labs.wikimedia.org Status? [In reply to]

We should support shadow wiki copies of mediawiki.
Something like copying the page table and have mediawiki look at the
revision table of the original wiki when needed.
Obviously, the labs login should have read-only access to the production
wiki (it's labs, after all) except perhaps to the user table which could
be shared.
It'd made easier doing such testings.

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Sep 1, 2009, 3:24 AM

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On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 2:03 AM, K. Peachey<p858snake [at] yahoo> wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 5:39 PM, Gregory Maxwell<gmaxwell [at] gmail> wrote:
>> Seems my concern was moot in any case... Every time I loaded it I've
>> only seen trashed pages like this:
>> http://flaggedrevs.labs.wikimedia.org/wiki/Super_Smash_Bros._Melee
>>
>> But I guess this is just a result of the import being incomplete.
> It's not trashed.... it's just missing templates and possibly css
> styles. The import was only for the articles, Someone needs to go in
> and import the templates listed on [[Special:WantedTemplates]] [1] and
> possibly the [[Mediawiki:Common.css]] and [[Mediawiki:Monobook]] from
> the en.wikipedia[2][3].

Speaking of which, the export interface could really benefit from an
option to include CSS and JS customizations during export.

-Robert Rohde

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Sep 1, 2009, 7:15 AM

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On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 5:03 AM, K. Peachey<p858snake [at] yahoo> wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 5:39 PM, Gregory Maxwell<gmaxwell [at] gmail> wrote:
>> Seems my concern was moot in any case... Every time I loaded it I've
>> only seen trashed pages like this:
>> http://flaggedrevs.labs.wikimedia.org/wiki/Super_Smash_Bros._Melee
>>
>> But I guess this is just a result of the import being incomplete.
> It's not trashed.... it's just missing templates and possibly css
[snip]

Ummmmm... Read the thread plz. :)

And it's different now than it was last night, last night the
templates weren't there yet and it looked like a car hit it. :)

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brion at wikimedia

Sep 1, 2009, 8:50 AM

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On 9/1/09 6:56 AM, Platonides wrote:
> We should support shadow wiki copies of mediawiki.
> Something like copying the page table and have mediawiki look at the
> revision table of the original wiki when needed.
> Obviously, the labs login should have read-only access to the production
> wiki (it's labs, after all) except perhaps to the user table which could
> be shared.
> It'd made easier doing such testings.

That would be pretty spiffy. Probably not absurdly difficult to
implement for at least these limited purposes (fetch page from other
database if it's not here locally), and we have related code already in
place for at least:

* remote image pages
* mediawiki message pages

-- brion

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Platonides at gmail

Sep 1, 2009, 2:02 PM

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Gregory Maxwell wrote:
> And it's different now than it was last night, last night the
> templates weren't there yet and it looked like a car hit it. :)

You know, when you point to a broken page, people^W wikipedians tend to
do absurd things like fixing them :)

It was me who fixed it, by importing two 'important' templates:
{{!!}}, content || and {{1x}}, content {{{1}}}

So yes, "something messed up" on the export/import.

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p858snake at yahoo

Sep 1, 2009, 4:17 PM

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On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 7:02 AM, Platonides<Platonides [at] gmail> wrote:
> You know, when you point to a broken page, people^W wikipedians tend to
> do absurd things like fixing them :)
I was going to fix some up, but import is restricted and i was too
lazy to do copy/paste imports.

-Peachey

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Sep 1, 2009, 4:21 PM

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On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 7:17 PM, K. Peachey<p858snake [at] yahoo> wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 7:02 AM, Platonides<Platonides [at] gmail> wrote:
>> You know, when you point to a broken page, people^W wikipedians tend to
>> do absurd things like fixing them :)
> I was going to fix some up, but import is restricted and i was too
> lazy to do copy/paste imports.

Ehhh. It don't know that it makes sense to spend effort manually
fixing pages on a test project. If the import procedure is not
working right it should be improved...

In any case, I'm sorry for the tangent. The main intent of my post was
to determine the current status:

Is the import finished?
When will the configuration changes for flagged protection be turned on?

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