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eugene.zelenko at gmail

Feb 11, 2009, 8:27 PM

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Google Summer of Code 2009

Hi!

I noticed that various free and open source software project started
preparations for Google Summer of Code 2009, so I created
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Summer_of_Code_2009.

Eugene.

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innocentkiller at gmail

Mar 11, 2009, 4:55 AM

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Re: Google Summer of Code 2009 [In reply to]

Maybe someone can finish HTMLDiff from last summer.

-Chad

On Mar 11, 2009 2:00 AM, "Nicolas Dumazet" <nicdumz [at] gmail> wrote:

Yeah!

I was part of the "mixed luck" from last year, and honestly, I get
warm feelings when reading the friendly

http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Summer_of_Code_2009/Application_template
;)


I don't know if anyone here is willing to be a mentor this year, but
please go ahead, and try to help a student. The experience is unique
for students, as it really motivates them to get involved -- if not in
mediawiki -- in an OSS project.

I don't know how to put it "nicely", but the key for GSoC to succeed,
on the mentor/senior devs side, is just to be *very* available. Easy
thing to say, I know, but that would be nice to keep this in mind if
we plan to host students this year.
It's not about having "xx minutes available a day for my student",
it's more of being able to set up in advance regular IRC meetings so
that his (her?) questions can be answered in real-time: being stuck on
your code when it seems like you won't get your questions answered in
a long time particularly sucks; especially when it seems to you that
answers are really simple.

And it's not only about mentors, but also about having some
"awareness" from devs that students are going to hang around on IRC,
asking for directions, and also sometimes asking (very) naive
questions: let's try not to bite them! =)


So yes, let's move, let's get involved into GSoC again! This is really
a great project, and I'm really looking forward to seeing new faces
around, bringing in new ideas, as naive as they may sound =)


2009/3/11 Brion Vibber <brion [at] wikimedia>:

> I’ve just put in Wikimedia’s org application for Google Summer of Code >
2009… Hopefully we’ll get...
--
Nicolas Dumazet — NicDumZ [ nɪk.d̪ymz ]

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Mar 11, 2009, 7:49 AM

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On 3/11/09 4:55 AM, Chad wrote:
> Maybe someone can finish HTMLDiff from last summer.

That would be awesome. :)

The inline diff view has pluses and minuses, but it's a very nice tool
for the toolbox... (Sometimes you really want to see the source in
place, but sometimes it's wayyyy easier to see in-place changes,
especially for big changes many versions apart.)

-- brion

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brion at wikimedia

Mar 11, 2009, 7:51 AM

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On 3/10/09 10:59 PM, Nicolas Dumazet wrote:
> I don't know how to put it "nicely", but the key for GSoC to succeed,
> on the mentor/senior devs side, is just to be *very* available. Easy
> thing to say, I know, but that would be nice to keep this in mind if
> we plan to host students this year.
> It's not about having "xx minutes available a day for my student",
> it's more of being able to set up in advance regular IRC meetings so
> that his (her?) questions can be answered in real-time: being stuck on
> your code when it seems like you won't get your questions answered in
> a long time particularly sucks; especially when it seems to you that
> answers are really simple.
>
> And it's not only about mentors, but also about having some
> "awareness" from devs that students are going to hang around on IRC,
> asking for directions, and also sometimes asking (very) naive
> questions: let's try not to bite them! =)

Total agreement... I want to make sure that we're able to make students
feel welcome and comfortable with the dev community -- not necessarily
just talking to the official mentor but feeling like they can ask
anybody anything just like they've been 'part of the team' for ages.

> So yes, let's move, let's get involved into GSoC again! This is really
> a great project, and I'm really looking forward to seeing new faces
> around, bringing in new ideas, as naive as they may sound =)

:D

-- brion

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guyvdb at gmail

Mar 12, 2009, 3:41 AM

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Re: Google Summer of Code 2009 [In reply to]

I would love to see my work on HTMLDiff continued this year by someone who's
good at client side scripting. Of course I can help out with the server side
stuff.

I think the main reason why my project was a "mixed success" is that I felt
like I was pretty much on my own. Actually this is the first time I read
about interest from the community in HTMLDiff since September last year.
So my advice is:

- Make sure that as a community, you embrace the project you choose, or
don't choose it at all.
- Select mentors that are available and that have the time to help the
student out when a task is outside of the student's skill set. My mentor
last year was a celebrity, a great guy and possibly a genius, but I think I
would have been happier with a mentor that was more average, that could work
with me without giving me the feeling that I was taking up the CTO's
valuable time.

Cheers,

Guy

2009/3/11 Brion Vibber <brion [at] wikimedia>

> On 3/10/09 10:59 PM, Nicolas Dumazet wrote:
> > I don't know how to put it "nicely", but the key for GSoC to succeed,
> > on the mentor/senior devs side, is just to be *very* available. Easy
> > thing to say, I know, but that would be nice to keep this in mind if
> > we plan to host students this year.
> > It's not about having "xx minutes available a day for my student",
> > it's more of being able to set up in advance regular IRC meetings so
> > that his (her?) questions can be answered in real-time: being stuck on
> > your code when it seems like you won't get your questions answered in
> > a long time particularly sucks; especially when it seems to you that
> > answers are really simple.
> >
> > And it's not only about mentors, but also about having some
> > "awareness" from devs that students are going to hang around on IRC,
> > asking for directions, and also sometimes asking (very) naive
> > questions: let's try not to bite them! =)
>
> Total agreement... I want to make sure that we're able to make students
> feel welcome and comfortable with the dev community -- not necessarily
> just talking to the official mentor but feeling like they can ask
> anybody anything just like they've been 'part of the team' for ages.
>
> > So yes, let's move, let's get involved into GSoC again! This is really
> > a great project, and I'm really looking forward to seeing new faces
> > around, bringing in new ideas, as naive as they may sound =)
>
> :D
>
> -- brion
>
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